The Doctor


What part did the doctor play in the whole thing? I was just a little confused as to why he was in the house at the end of the movie keeping David from leaving.

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He was a spook, a specter, a wraith, a spirit person(said with Derek Acorah voice, a shade....A GHOST. Plus he probably knew about the shenanigans and turned a blind eye when he could have told the mother and saved her perhaps from suicide so remaining in the world of the cold and intangible was his penance.

or am i overanalyzing?

"Kid, don't threaten me. There are worse things than death, and I can do all of them."

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You are overanalyzing just a bit...The Doctor is a ghost...once you know that, it turns the movie on its head because then you have to wonder how The professor, but more importantly, how Beckinsale's character can see him, talk to him, and interact with him. Furthermore, if he's a ghost, he MUST know that all the other characters, with the exception of the Nanny are ghosts as well. It also explains the terror the nanny has when the "doctor" examines her near the beginning of the movie. Knowing the doc is a ghost would be the BIGGEST clue to the twist of the movie if you knew about it at the beginning...

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Hello "starfleet_99",
you wrote:
"Knowing the doc is a ghost would be the BIGGEST clue to the twist of the movie if you knew about it at the beginning..." - yes absolutely! But that's just why this movie is so scary, for it lasts quite a while until the mystery is then solved!
I can imagine other people had different opinions, but speaking about my own experience, I can say that this movie managed to create completely false conclusions - for instance, as one of the brothers is presented as a rather bad character, I thought, ah, I see, there must be money involved: These young people want their aunt's money, if there is any; and so it would be best to "dispose of her" in a mental asylum...
Which means, I supposed these "men" were bad people but there may be nothing about ghosts and things. And further I thought for quite a while the young girl was honest in her sorrow about her aunt. A young woman, not very serious a person, maybe even immoral in certain respects, but not a bad character. Oops, I was misled ;-)
And that's quite a good and difficult to achieve thing - lead the viewers astray and create an effect of surprise when in the end all comes to the sunlight with a big bang. And the time inbetween, from the start until the last, say, 10-15 minutes, let the viewer have a growing feeling that there IS something definitively wrong, but WHAT is it, WHERE is the centre of the evil, etc. ...that keeps people in front of the screen.
And when the young "lady" appeared behind the professor at the platform in -wherever it was, London? anyway, his hometown - many people may have thought, oh, how silly, this is just another movie with a sort of ending which permits easily to add another one (Pt. 2, Pt. 3, etc. etc.) - but no, I personally found just that last moment very creepy; for it shows, once he has seen the ghosts secret, he's no longer safe - "they" will get you. Some day. Somehow. Somewhere.
I wonder what other people think about the "girl's" appearance at the station: Just another rather useless stereotype to make a sequel movie possible, or did you also think this was a quite creepy and suitable ending?
Best regards
sprendlinger

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Sprendlinger,
Thank you for your insight about this picture. I answered the question about the ending and the elderly doctor's purpose in the story in another post on this string. However, I was wondering, did anyone else notice how the white sheets (covering the furniture and mirrors in the unused rooms) suddenly turned black just before the house fire? I did, and I immediately knew the black sheets signified death. It was customary for centuries to cover the front door of a home with black crepe and especially to cover mirrors with black sheets after a death in the family. (Hence, the term "crepe hanger" used to denote a pessimistic person). Mirrors were covered because it was feared the spirit of the departed might see its reflection in a mirror and then refuse to leave the house. The contrast between the light-colored walls and the black sheets also made a very creepy atmosphere. Remember how pleasant the house was with the white sheets?

Sheila Beers

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But Nanny isn't their aunt. She's a servant, as is clear from the start. Any money won't be hers.

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It's an obvious flaw in the story I think.

Without explaining some reason as to why he should be tied in with the other ghosts, it seems to make for a rather sloppy chance to give a glorified cameo to Sir John.



There are two types of people in the world, those who divide people into two types and ........

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Hello TiminPhoenix,
thanks for giving that suggestion which could come near the filmmaker's intention, I guess...
and I'd like to say "sorry" to those who might have stumbled upon my previous posting before the words SPOILER ALERT had been added. Ooops, I had been all new to the board and forgot completely about that! But, you see, it's really difficult to write anything substantial about a movie without giving away too many details of the storyline...
Have a good time :-)
Best regards
Andreas (sprendlinger)

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I see going to a board about a movie should carry with it the automatic thought of, "reader beware, spoilers be here."

If I am looking at the chapter titles of a book before reading it and see one that says, "Little Red Dies.....page 322" I can't be mad that it's been ruined for me.

One reason why I avoid reading the chapter headings and also why I try and not watch trailers.

Have a great day!


There are two types of people in the world, those who divide people into two types and ........

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I do not believe the doctor's role and the appearance of the young lady ghost at the train station are flaws in the story. According to what I have read and heard about ghosts, they remain in their favorite places on earth because they are attached to such places and do not want to leave. They also want to consummate the unfulfilled dreams they had while alive and/or continue whatever they had enjoyed in life. No doubt the doctor loved his medical practice, his patients, his home, and his place of respect in the community, and so his spirit has remained to watch over the Mariell household. He also represents reason and science, and this makes him a kindred spirit (no pun intended) with Dr. Ash, to lure Dr. Ash into the scheme of things.

When Nanny is so terrified of the doctor, it is one clue that he is a ghost, and then the viewer begins to wonder about the Mariell children and other characters -- whether they are dead or alive. The young lady leaves a clue by explaining to Dr. Ash that Nanny is upset because "she has outlived all the people she used to take care of." Does "all the people" include the Mariell children?

It also is the wish of ghosts to lure the living to death so that the ghosts can "take the living with them." One can only assume the "sleeping pills" the doctor gives Dr. Ash are poison. When the doctor tries to keep Dr. Ash from escaping the burning house, this is another attempt to make Dr. Ash join the dead. Throughout the story the young lady uses youth, beauty, and sex to ensnare Dr. Ash, and her reckless driving is an attempt to take Dr. Ash "with her." When she appears at the train station in London, she still is on her quest to ensnare Dr. Ash because he represents the love and marriage she was denied by her early death. I agree the ending does leave room for a sequel, but the "cliffhanger" element is effective left as it is.

Sheila Beers

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That ending feels tacked on by the director and is in total conflict with the earlier denouement of the film, where the ghost of his twin sister proved far more powerful than the trio of wicked ghosts. So what, having saved her brother she's going to just stand by and let Kate Beckinsale entrap him again? I don't think so.In other words the appearance of Beckinsale at the end isn't unsettling or chilling because we know she just got her spook derriere kicked by the little girl ghost and if she tries anything again she'll get more of the same.

Totally dumb ending which the film just did not need.

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Sheila Beers
You are entitled to your opinion, but other posters stated they see the film much as I have. Thank you for the reply anyway.

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I was also at a loss to understand why the Doctor participated in, or helped enable their torture of Nanny Tess. When David went to his home he seemed genuinely concerned about David and acted at least like he really wanted to help him. Perhaps as someone else said he had some complicity in the incest, maybe by his silence, and this was his pentance.

A heart can be broken, but it still keeps a-beatin' just the same.

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The Doctor once fell for Christina and it was his doom.

He hints at this when he tells David: "And if you want to have an obsession, Christina is an healthy one."

It seems that Christina had a big appetite.

Just my two cents.

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