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share1. The book was released in 1990.
2. The script was first written in 1992 (picked up that December).
3. Quentin Tarantino has cited Elmore Leonard as one of his influences.
4. Pulp Fiction was released in October 1994.
You're saying that Get Shorty was written, cast, produced, filmed, edited, and released in less than a year? Would you care to revise your statement?
You don't direct books.
Lots of scripts are written, that doesn't determine how they're directed.
You're mentioning Pulp Fiction, why? It's not like that his first work. If you want to go that way then I'm sure Barry Sonnenfeld (director, producer) saw Pulp Fiction. I'm also sure he was trying to make a movie in that directing style as he saw it as a way to capture the writing style of Elmore Leonard.
If I said it's a bad attempt at a Robert Rodriguez movie, people would scratch their heads. So I said it's a poor attempt at a Quentin Tarantino movie...so go *beep* yourself.
It's a poor attempt at that style of movie. PERIOD. It doesn't call for your absurd attempt to lay out a timeline or wank on about all your *beep*
It's a statement of fact.
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I don't agree with FluffChop that Get Shorty is a Poor Attempt at a Tarantino Movie.
However, FizzyG's arguments against FChop's statement contain nothing relevant to support Fizzy's opposing view. FluffChop had a direct and compelling answer to each of G's numbered reasons why he believed Fluff's opinion to be inncorrect. When the book was released, script written, etc., has no bearing as to why Get Shorty was not a Poor Attempt imitating Tarantino's style.
On the other hand, FluffChop has yet to offer any detail or reason as to why "Shorty" is an attempt - a Poor attempt - at imitating Tarantino's style, beyond the ubiquitous "It's a statement of fact.", and "go beep yourself".
Opinions are not Statements of Fact. Everyone has an opinion on a subject, (No, They Don't). See?
Some people have concrete reasons for believing somethin; others can't quite articulate why they feel a certain way.
FizzyG offered a number of reasons why he disagreed with FluffyC. They weren't very compelling, but at least they were shared somewhat politely. I would very much like to hear FluffChop's reason for thinking Get Shorty is an inept copy of Tarantino's style.
Time for me to put up or shut up.
I do not think Get Shorty is an attempt, poor or ottherwise, of a Tarantino movie.
Before the time Pulp Fiction became a hit in 1994, Tarantino had 2 films started but never completed, a script he wrote (True Romance) sold for the minimum a scriptwriter can be paid, it was not immediately released.
In 1992, he made an "arthouse" film released in 19 theaters, gradually making it's way to a whole 61 screens in US. (Res Dogs). Due to the Critical success of Res Dogs, True Romance was finally released. Also due to Dogs critical success, Tarantino was given a greenlight on Pulp Fiction, produced, coincidently, in part, by: Danny Devito!
This film became a box office hit and Tarantino was becoming recognized as the brilliant writer/director that he is known for today.
By the time Get Shorty (1995) was released, Sonnenfeld had already had been Cinematographer/Director of Photography for 15 films over 8 years working for such directors as the Cohen Brothers, Penny Marshall, Rob Reiner, Danny DeVito and more.
He had directed 3 films, Shorty being his fourth. (The others were the blockbuster Addams Family movies, and an not-so-hot RomCom with MJ Fox).
Two very different directors.
But at the time Sonnenfeld was producing Shorty, Tarantino was just a blip on the radar, the new kid/fad on the block, certainly not someone recognized as having a "style" to "borrow".
Sonnenfeld had years more experience and was making his own film. Produced and co-starring Danny Devito.
The point is, even though we know Tarantino's films today, in 1995, he wasn't famous enough for Get Shorty to be Tarantino esque.
I prefer the toad less raveled
Pulp fiction was a cultural phenomenon, why is it impossible to believe that aspects of this movie were influenced by it. Doesn't take anything away from Get Shorty but you'd be blind not to notice
shareSmug and verbose. How often do you tear yourself away from the mirror?
shareYou're mentioning Pulp Fiction, why? It's not like that his first work.
Too bad his only earlier work, Reservoir Dogs has little of Elmore Leonard's world, so comparing a quite faithful Elmore Leonard adaption, Get Shorty to that would make your initial claim even more ridiculous.
On the other hand, Pulp Fiction has a tremendous amount of Elmore Leonard's world. It looks very much like you were thinking about Pulp Fiction when you made your claim, but now seeing it's very unlikely they had enough time to copy it, you're trying to back out of it now. share
You don’t direct books.
I’m not sure what you meant by that. So your saying that the movie is different than the book?
You don't direct books- I don't get the point you were making with that.
sharePulp Fiction was first shown in May 1994, Get Shorty was released in October 1995. It's very much possible it had some influence.
shareyour comment really shows how little you know
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No but thanks for the offer....
shareSo, you’re not man enough to write “fuck”?
shareNow that you mention it, it was so fucking weird how IMfuckingDb censored free speech so fucking much. The cunts.
shareI hated IMDB for that. One time I was commenting on "Farewell My Concubine" the Chinese film which has a character named Shitou in it. I mentioned his name maybe four times in my lengthy post. Every time it came up, his name showed up as *beep*. Those bastards.
shareI'm fairly sure Col Needham and Jeff Bezos killed Kenny, those bastards!
shareNope, not a poor attempt at a Tarantino film. Incidentally while Travolta was filming Pulp Fiction, Quentin read the script and John was going to turn down the Get Shorty movie when Quentin convinced him orherwise
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Maybe that's because you've never been out of Miami, dip sh it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Rm4D3_fQ2c
And Pulp Fiction was a poor man's Jean-Luc Godard movie.
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