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Did POTC rip off Cutthroat Island?


I'll give POTC the benefit of the doubt since most pirate movies look alike, but some of the scenes in Cutthroat Island look very familiar to POTC. The cave scene with the gold, the sword fight on top of the ship, the part with the male lead (can't remember his name) stuck in the bottom of the ship...these all seem very familiar to POTC.

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Technically Pirates of the Carribean did rip off cutthroat island, but i doubt it was intentional. with such a huge gap between big budget pirate films i think POTC recycled some elements from this film because they hadn't been seen in a decade. of course the argument could be made that Cutthroat Island sorta ripped of the POTC ride i guess. the amount of plotting ripped off from Cutthroat island is quite alot. both films start in port royal with a daring escape. both then head to a seedy 'pirate' town. both then travel to the high seas and outlast a vicious storm. both travel to a hidden island full of treasure. granted these are all pirate cliches, but they exist in both films

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I watched it for the first time last night on On Demand and I totally agree! A lot of the stunts Gina did were the same as Jack Sparrow (the tumbling moves).
I think they blended Gina and Matthew's characters to make Jack Sparrow. As for the part where the Governor Ainslee and Dawg are having tea, it was identical to when Cutler Beckett was having tea out at sea with Will. Then when the cannon fires on Ainslee and he and 3 others burn up, it was dead on to Cutler Beckett getting blown up in POTC 3! Also, Matthew getting caught below under water and so did Will Turner! And the officer who sides with Gina at the end, Trotter-very similar to Jack Davenport's officer (can't think of his name).
And of course the monkey Jack and the monkey King Charles. I have to say that Gina looked very nice in her outfits and the pirates didn't look as dirty or mangey or nasty as the ones in POTC. The sword scenes were vastly superior in POTC. Frank Langella was actually pretty good.
I liked this movie.

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Short answer: yes.

Long answer: (all of the above ;P)
I saw a lot of things that were similar in PotC, and the over all vibe was the same for both films. But I really didn't mind. They're still very different and uncomparable in a way. And even though I think the visuals in PotC were amazing, the ones in Cutthroat were nice in a 90's sorta way. If they had been made around the same period of time I'd be a little bummed about all the rip offs PotC did, but now I don't mind at all (well, maybe a little). I love both movies in totally different ways and I respect the directors, the cast and everyone that was involved in the making of the films.

And really, Cutthroat Island deserves better ratings than a 5.2!

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Everything that's been said above and also Murtogg and Mullroy joining the pirates at the end was similar to Trotter joining the pirates at the end.

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I just watched this movie again and just like "The 5th Element" and "Cirque du Freak", I will watch over and over again just like the rest of my Family (and I have a BIG Family)when it's on. I agree that POTC took a few things from CI but I don't care, it was entertaining! I also agree that this movie deserves higher than a 5.3.

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"The cave scene with the gold"

Yeah, when I saw that (this film played last night) I thought it looked just like the scene (except for more window dressing) from POTC.

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The answer is yeah yeah yeah!

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There's not a shadow of a doubt that Pirates of the Caribbean ripped off of this film. Technically, there's nothing wrong with it, since the stuff they did "steal" wasn't invented by Cuthroat Island, but I just hate it when the copycat movie gets all the glory the original should've received.

Cuthroat Island was a disaster both critically and economically, producing very little money considering the amount that was used to make it.

I honestly think that this movie deserves more glory than Pirates of the Caribbean, seeing how this one was 1 consistent movie, that didn't need to stretch it's plot to 3 over-the-top ridiculously stupid films, and this one also had a lot less CGI, and no unnecessary supernatural elements, which in turn ruin the whole Pirate feel that they try to achieve with PotC.

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and no unnecessary supernatural elements, which in turn ruin the whole Pirate feel that they try to achieve with PotC.


That's because POTC is less a knock-off of this film but a blatant rip-off of supernatural-piratey voodoo novel called On Stranger Tides by Tim Powers; which is now pretty much confirmed since the next POTC movie is called that very name and has the same plot device about a quest for the fountain of youth.

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"Yes, the 1995 film 'Cutthroat Island' invented pirates."

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If Johnny Depp had not been in POTC it would have been just as bad as "Cutthroat Island".

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Let's see. POTC was based on the Disney ride of the same name which opened in 1967. Cutthroat Island was released in 1995. So unless it was in production around 1960, which would be absurd obviously, then it is not possible.

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The story of the first POTC movie ripped off an old adventure game called The Secret of Monkey Island. This game was inspired by the disney ride, of course. But in the late 90s, the scriptwriter for POTC was hired to write a script for a Monkey Island movie. That movie never happened. I can list up some storypoints from the game.

1. Young wannabe as the hero
2. Ghost pirates about.
3. Young man falls in love with the governor (female one of course)
4. Ghost pirates kidnaps the governor
5. Ghost pirates takes her to an island that can`t be found by "normal means"
6. The hero gathers a ship and a ragtag crew and goes after her
7. He uses voodoo magic to find the island

The sequell also has a voodoo lady living in the swamp. So yes, the storyline is very very similar. Close enough to be a ripp.off. Especially given the person who wrote the script.

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The story of the first POTC movie ripped off an old adventure game called The Secret of Monkey Island.


Exactly.


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POTC is based on a ride at Disneyland. (Or Disneyworld, one or the other!) That in turn is based on the 1952 Burt Lancaster and Nick Cravat adventure, "The Crimson Pirate". It's a gloriously swashbuckling film, from which POTC directly borrows several scenes (notably walking the boat along under the water).

"Cutthroat Island" borrows quite a few of the old pirate movie tropes, inevitably. Its main claim to originality is in having a female lead, although that wasn't strictly new (check out 1951's "Anne Of The Indies"). There are only so many things that can be done with a film about people swinging from ropes and waving swords! I don't think many of these films intentionally steal from each other. They just all follow the same basic pirate formula.

Personally I like "Cutthroat Island" a lot more than I like POTC. POTC seems too long, and too reliant on the SFX. "Cutthroat Island" is more old-fashioned in feel, with less rambling in the plot. Seems most of the rest of the world doesn't agree with me, though!


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All pirate movies, books, theme park rides etc ultimately borrow, rip, steal, copy or whatever you want to call it from one source: Robert Louis Stevenson's Treasure Island.

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Up to a point, yes. RL Stevenson invented the treasure-hunting, parrot-toting pirate, with his sea boots and sword. All pirate stories since then owe him some debt. Hollywood did add a lot to that over the years, though. The pirates of Treasure Island were a grimmer, darker kind. Hollywood tended more towards the swashbuckling, fun-loving kind that the viewers could actually like.


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