Why are officers addressing each other as Mr.? Mr. Zimmer, Mr. Hunter etc? Isn't proper to address with proper rank? For example Commander Hunter, Leutenant Zimmer?
Addressing as Misters sound like they are a bunch of civilians, am I right here?
Addressing as Misters sound like they are a bunch of civilians, am I right here?
NO. Like with most everything Military, you are wrong again.
Mr. is misused several times in the film, this much is true. Like when Captain Hunter refers to "Mr. COB". The Chief of the Boat is Enlisted and would not be referred to as Mr (An Officer term)
Mr. followed by last name is an appropriate way for a Senior Officer to address a Junior officer, Not often used, but still legitimate.
For a Junior to use it with a more senior officer would be disrespectful however.
It does NOT make them sound like a bunch of Civilians (Except perhaps to a civilian that does not know what he is talking about).
I joined the Navy to see the world, only to discover the world is 2/3 water!
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Only slightly off topic, but knowing things change over time, this seems like a chance to ask you to clarify something for me.
During my time in the Navy the term mister was used for officers, but only those below the rank of Commander (like you say, never used for enlisted.) Still true?
Another thing I recall was enlisted using mister only for officers they knew, and for many, only those they knew and liked - otherwise they would favor using the word sir or the rank of the officer (if below the rank of commander.) Admittedly it was the brown shoe Navy, where unwritten rules are often quite different.
When and where did you serve? Myself, I served aboard Halsey (CG 23) until her decommissioning, then aboard Kitty Hawk til I got out.
And you can ignore the Daddy-Tej troll responding. He's a little troll that likes to stalk me and continuously making stolen valor claims to piss me off. Never served a day in his life, He's not even American.
I joined the Navy to see the world, only to discover the world is 2/3 water!
A bit before your time - the 70s. I was in VF 111 aboard Coral Sea (CVA-43) and did another tour as a TAR with VP 93.
I'm going to have to guess that Daddy-Tej possibly follows you for another reason - the quality and informative nature of your posts. While I don't stalk you, my interest in similar movies allowed me to see many of your posts, which are all factual and educational for those who are looking for information.
Plus those rare times you can only speculate based on likelihoods, you make it clear it is a guess (based on probability) - I do wish more people would do so - it might reduce the number of long written debates on some posts.
You've also made posts covering the facts so thoroughly that I didn't have anything to add, only needing to read what you'd written - I thank you for that.
Ah, the "Sundowners'! They were assigned to Kitty Hawk when I was aboard her. One of the only two Tomcat Squadrons in the airwing, though I think they were still flying Phantoms in your day.
The other squadron being VF-51.
The Sundowner's spaces and ready room was right above Ops Berthing where I had my rack.
I joined the Navy to see the world, only to discover the world is 2/3 water!
NO. Like with most everything Military, you are wrong again.
Except perhaps to a civilian that does not know what he is talking about
Why you gotta be such a jerk about it? The OP is young, he doesn't know and was asking a legitimate question. And you blast him for it! I've seen you do it before on other boards, it's just not necessary.
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Alex has a record of being erong about things military.
Alex asks a lot of military question and receives appropriate answers.
The issue with him is that he often interjects his wrong opinions/conclusions on something military when asking his questions.
And on at least one occasion, actually gainsayed the answer with his own bs opinion after asking a question. and the person he gainsayed was an active duty Chief Petty Officer.
He takes it in stride. You have no authority to be offended on his behalf.
Step off.
I joined the Navy to see the world, only to discover the world is 2/3 water!
It does indeed make them sound very un-Naval. Granted, I've never served on a sub... don't have the balls for it (literally), but I have been at several Bases around the world, served on a ship and am married to a retired Chief who served on a ship. In my 25 years of working/associating with the Navy as a civilian/Reservist/AD and Navy wife, the only time I ever heard an officer addressed as 'Mr.' was a LT Roberts... and it was sort of an in-joke among those familiar with the movie. But, you know, my years were just in the Navy (and living on an isolated Base for a decade), not in the Coast Guard.