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What a piece of nonsense WTF was Craven trying to go for here? SERIOUSLY

posted 9 years ago by al666940-3
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Can anyone explain this movie to me. I REALLY want to know (was it intended to be a comedy?).

I've been a Craven fan since his 70's movies. Obviously I love his Freddy movies, EXCEPT this one.

WTF was the point?
- Actors and producers of horror movies are weirdoes and have emotional scarring from their filmmaking?
- Filmmaking serves to trap ambiguous evil entities? Not sure what will another sequel accomplish that the last one didn't to truly trap this evil as Craven says in the movie.
- Actors can't tell reality from their movie roles?

Because for the love of me the movie has too many cons to take seriously:
- It's not scary/creepy/unnerving (or funny, even Shocker had plenty of laughs and a killer soundtrack at least) in the least
- The musical score sucks (was there even one?)
- Freddy's makeup is amongst the worst/fakest looking ones (only Freddy's Dead beats it)
- Most of the story is about Langenkamp's fending off career opportunities from NLC and dealing with her stalker (who cares about that?!!!)
- Freddy apparently can do whatever and whenever he feels like (no rules at all, feels like Candyman only without the creepy element that movie actually had)
- Pretty much all the death scenes (all 2 of them, the techs don't count) are 100% copies from previous NOES movies, and so slow to the point you are literally looking at your watch or going for the fast forward button to get it over with. Since we KNOW like exactly what's gonna happen, no suspense.
- While the green hat and coat were a nice addition, the leather pants with knee high laceboots looked right out of an S&M bar (I was almost waiting for Freddy to turn around and show his bare @$$, you know, assless chaps).
- The final scene in Freddy's lair bordered on parody/mockery, like something Edward Wood would have directed/produced.

The ONLY good thing going for it was Heather (lovely, talented and gorgeous), but she alone can't make this worth the time.

So again, what was the point?!!!!! There's a reason this movie tanked and is the one that made the less money of all of the nightmare movies. Heck even the remake was better than this.

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[–] bossdog677 9 years ago

People just want to like Wes Craven so they bastardize any series installment he wasnt involved and glorify the ones he did as masterpieces and want to live in this terrible world where only 1, 3, and 7 exist and think we should all be there to and they know what's best for us almost like a bunch of liberals pushing their agenda that sucks.

In actuality the original and New Nightmare are the worst two in the series (not counting remake) and i used to fall into this trap that the Original is the best and some kind of masterpiece but as i get older i see it for the B movie that it is.

Look at the movies that came out in 1984 like "Ghostbusters", "The Terminator", "Beverly Hills Cop". The Original Elm Street is nowhere near a masterpiece. It's an over rated movie that you can just turn off after Tina' death and not miss much

New Nightmare is just abysmal and is what Wes would have done with Part 3 if he had full control because he hates the producers and he hates the fans and we are damn lucky the Bob Shaye kept Wes in line so we could get some good movies, tv shows and comics out of this thing before Wes tried to kill it because he is smug and likes the smell of his own farts

[–] Klein_Returns 8 years ago

I hate to say this but i actually like every NOES movie above New Nightmare (even Freddy's Dead).

[–] megameme (370) 8 years ago

"In actuality the original and New Nightmare are the worst two in the series"

LMAOOOOOOOOOO you can't be serious. If you think the original is worse than Freddy's dead I can't take you seriously. HAHA too funny.

[–] Bossdog677 (1553) 7 years ago

The original is like what your mom watches and thinks she knows anything about the franchise

[–] MaximRecoil (4598) 7 years ago

>In actuality the original and New Nightmare are the worst two in the series

You're clearly an idiot.

>and i used to fall into this trap that the Original is the best and some kind of masterpiece but as i get older i see it for the B movie that it is.

So you're admittedly a bandwagon rider, and now you've found a new bandwagon which you think is more "enlightened" than the "Original is the Best" bandwagon, and you think that by riding it, you'll appear to be more "in the know" than those "mainstream" "casuals". Your desire to appear "in the know" and to be a "gatekeeper" is laughably evident in your "The original is like what your mom watches and thinks she knows anything about the franchise" reply. The problem is, hipsterism doesn't lend itself well to the ANOES franchise, because in this case, the mainstream view that 1, 3, and 7 are the best ones is blatantly/obviously correct.

[–] Bossdog677 (1553) 7 years ago

As a kid who played the Nintendo game before seeing any movies then watching Freddy's Dead shortly after Freddy's Dead was everything i imagined Freddy Krueger to be so no bandwagon here i've always preferred the last kid in Springwood saga from Freddys Dead and the Nintendo game to anything else in the series but as i got into teen years i thought my taste was wrong because of what other people said but i realize now as an adult that my taste is way cooler than everybody else's. See you prefer to keep Freddy in the past to better resemble a typical slasher villian while i yearn for everything Freddy Krueger should really truly be

[–] megameme (370) 3 years ago

didn't read, phaggot *middle finger*

[–] Bossdog677 (1553) 3 years ago

You are obviously a Wes Craven bootlicker so you wouldn't see the greatness that is Freddys Dead.

[–] ibarackedyomama (43) 3 years ago

your mom raised a faggot
i hope you do a movie with alec bladwin

[–] Bossdog677 (1553) 3 years ago

You're the fags who like this gay 90s meta horror bullshit that fucking sucks and wish you were little nancy you fucking homos

[–] megameme2x (25) 2 years ago

lol @ibarackedyomama good one

[–] kuatorises (7467) 3 years ago

"In actuality the original and New Nightmare are the worst two in the series"

Ok, soooooo... you're insane.

[–] vilafire (655) 2 years ago

The first one is definitely the best. But I agree that New Nightmare is vastly overrated. It would have been way better if Heather was a young actress in Hollywood, partying with other show biz types who get killed one by one. Saddling her with a husband and kid was dumb.

[–] strangenstein (683) 3 years ago

Couldn’t disagree more with the OP. The original walked a very fine line between dreams and reality, and that made it all the more interesting and scary. I saw the original in the theater back in ‘84 and it reeked of creeping dread.

Every sequel, with the exception of Wes Craven’s New Nightmare, telegraphed the dream sequences, seriously damaging the atmosphere and dread. The true fatal flaw was turning Freddy into a wiseacre. Blech.

WCNN mostly returned the series to that spooky dreamlike area, and, for the first time in several films, Freddy was scary again. The ending takes on more conventional horror tropes, but it doesn’t ruin what came earlier in the movie.

[–] vilafire (655) 2 years ago

I think the dream sequences of WCNN are the most boring and un-creative. There’s a vaguely Kill My Darlings idea with Heather following the sleeping pills crumbs but it just doesn’t make sense. How would the kid know to do that? Sleeping pills don’t work like that. Etc.

I’ve seen this movie many times and each time I like it less and less. Like someone said, the two kills are repeats. And Freddy does make a few quips in this one.

[–] vilafire (655) 2 years ago

[–] ODB82 (2055) 3 years ago

Pure ridiculous camp that isn’t even fun. No idea why anyone raves about this one as any type of serious horror.

Aside from Part 5 and the remake, New Nightmare is my least favorite.

[–] kuatorises (7467) 3 years ago

I disagree. A lot. This is arguably the best one. It looks the best and is the most realistic. The franchise was a joke at this point, so Craven shook things up and made this (standalone) movie. Freddy is an evil entity - whether it be a demon, ghost, or something else - that simply takes the Freddy form because it likes it. It's almost like Pennywise in that sense. It's the darkest and most gritty of the series outside of part 2. It was trapped in another world/realm and Craven was keeping it there, but it was gaining power and hell-bent on getting out.