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the coke bottle thing

posted 20 years ago by super_darth
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that thing where he tapes the coke bottle to his gun to silence it, would that actually work

[–] ThingyBlahBlah3 20 years ago

The more relevant question is, with all that really loud industrial equipment around, why did he even need a silencer? Just to remind us that he's an expert at this sort of thing, in case we forgot.

[–] SPaS 20 years ago

Heard it does.
A friend of a friend heard about a similar technique from an episode of CSI (where it was referred to as "poor man's silencer" or something). As an avid gun collector he tested it and said that it works quite well ONCE.

And if you fire a .44 in a factory it is possible that it's heard from a distance, due to the narrow pitch range of the bang. It's also loud.
And the bad guys were expecting him. So Taft just didn't want to take unnecessary risks.

[–] coolbeads 19 years ago

huh... this movie just came on tv a few minutes ago and I was just checking to see if I should keep watching and then I came across this post... I just saw that episode of CSI and it was actually a potato that they called a "poorman's silencer"!

[–] BadAxer 20 years ago

Gun nerd time, yes it would work though I dont remember if it would have in the set up in the refinary, you have to have a certain amount of fluid in the bottle.

Also it was a 1911, probably then a 45 acp which is sub sonic. If a bullet isnt subsonic it cant be silenced

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[–] NoPegs 19 years ago

Actually, it might, just don't stuff it *down* the barrel. Might pop the barrel then (yeah, physics warps at bullet pressures, something so simple as a breath mint can cause a barrel rupture).

[–] Ace_Moonshot 19 years ago

The bottle will work but you have better put a hole in the bottom of the bottle. Lest you may well end up with difficulty clapping. Except in a purely Zen fashion. As to the Model 1911A1 he used, it appeared by the size of the muzzle to indeed be a .45 ACP. I happen to own a 1911, although it is a Combat Elite model. While the .45 is mostly subsonic.45ACP rounds. They are very loud even for a relatively low velocity round. Not even the best of silencers made for the handgun will silence a .45 to any great degree. The point of using a subsonic round with a silencer is not only that it is quieter coming out of the barrel but that you do not have the sound barrier being broken as it zips along.

Now to my pet peeves about this trick. First, a 2 liter bottle’s mouth will not go over the end of a .45's barrel. Second, if you taped a bottle to the barrel of a long slide automatic like he did, the slide would be incapable of going back. Meaning you’d get one shot then the gun would jam. This trick was predominantly used with the Ruger Mark 1, or similar designs, by certain ‘family’ types. Back in the 70's and 80's when the .22 was in vogue.

Just my two cents. It was all that was on T.V. here at 3A.M. on a Saturday night. Mores the pity. What a dreadful film. But it was neat to see Billy Bob Thornton.

[–] Mes2372 19 years ago

A 2 liter bottle’s mouth will fit over a 45 barrel. Dumb A*S

[–] Ace_Moonshot 19 years ago

I am looking at a .45 automatic right now. I own one. I defy you to find a 2 liter bottle that has a mouth wide enough that it will cover the barrel and the slide, not to mention the front sight, of a .45. Period. The end of that story. The fact is a fact. Deal with it or crawl back under your bridge. If this is the limit of your contributions then I'd say you should not be name calling. Since your lack of intellect brands you as some form of an inverse Einstein.

Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives. John S Mills

[–] Mes2372 19 years ago

I didnt say it would fit over the slide, but it will fit the barrel.

[–] dio52 19 years ago

Actually, it might, just don't stuff it *down* the barrel. Might pop the barrel then (yeah, physics warps at bullet pressures, something so simple as a breath mint can cause a barrel rupture).

Not true, at least not with a modern gun. They test this on Mythbusters, and even when they welded a steel slug into the muzzle they only got a slight rupture about an inch long right near the muzzle while still blowing the slug out. hammering a slug into the barrel with a 5lb sledge created a barely noticable defomrity near the muzzle (also blowing the slug out), and stuffing dirt and other things into the muzzle by hand had no effect at all. basically, the bullet is sealed quite well into the barrel, and the pressure created by firing the gun created more force than the resistance caused by the soft object stuck in the muzzle, so the moving bullet compresses the air between itself and the blockage and simply forces it out before actually reaching the blockage. a lot of military grade weapons are designed to perform very well in wet/dirty or otherwise non-optimal conditions.

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