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Did Seagal And Sir Michael Caine Get Along?


According to Sir Michael Caine's trivia, they didn't get along on set - is this true?
Can anyone shed some light on this situation/rumour?

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Well, Steven Seagal has been known to be an egomaniac. And he was the one who directed this movie.

What would Steve Guttenberg do?

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If there was tension between them, it's probably because Caine was jealous of Seagal's legendary acting chops, effortless charisma, and uncanny ability to disappear into any role.

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To be fair, Michael Caine at the time had hoped to transition into more serious roles. When he heard from his agent that he could be working with Seagal, Caine accepted the offer without looking at the script, only to find out later that his agent had committed him to another brainless action vehicle on par with "Hannah and Her Sisters".

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That doesnt make any sense at all.

He couldnt possibly think Seagal would make a decent movie.

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Seagal promised Michael Caine that this role would finally win him an Oscar. Needless to say, Caine wasn't good enough in this role and he didn't win an Oscar. Caine has been mad at Seagal ever since.

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He'd already won an Oscar for Hannah and Her Sisters back in 1987, which he was unable to accept because he was busy shooting Jaws: The Revenge. For such a distinguished and talented actor, he's been in some really terrible films, namely this eco-terrorist drivel.

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Well you got me there. It was a joke but I didn't know about that about Sir Michael in the Woody movie. Yeah, he has been in some pretty awful stuff for a knighted actor.

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Well you got me there. It was a joke but I didn't know about that about Sir Michael in the Woody movie. Yeah, he has been in some pretty awful stuff for a knighted actor.


It's a British thing. I suppose Caine sees himself as a skilled craftsman rather than as an artist, and the idea of refusing a job is as kooky to him as it would be to you or me. Think about it like this: if Steven Seagal's agent called YOU up today, and offered you lots of money to spend a few months acting in one of his movies, wouldn't you just have to say yes, even if it was only for the money? Caine felt the same way.

Look at the filmographies of Richard Burton and Lawrence Olivier for further examples of great British acting legends who appeared in many awful movies because it was an easy paycheck, and made no bones about it.



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The quotes page has evidence to support Thingy's supposition:

[on Jaws: The Revenge (1987)] I have never seen it, but by all accounts it is terrible. However, I have seen the house that it built, and it is terrific.
-Michael Caine

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I'm British and I can state....

we NEED the money!It's a British trait. This is like some medieval fiefdom over here. Foreign currency is accepted, We'll leave your hotel room by the window if required. All kinks accepted.

Seriously though, Micks from the old school Britain; long term economic destitution.So he'll do it for the cash. And thats how its going to be for my generation.

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They probably fell out over who got first use of the Grecian 2000.
They must have got through gallons of the stuff.

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I just wonder how the hell they got Michael Caine for this movie

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Actually Michael Caine took a pay reduction for this. He thought it could earn him a nom in the same vain as Michael Douglas in Wall Street. Unfortunately, that didn't pan out.

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You are all saying how did they get Caine for this movie. The question is, how did they get him for Jaws 4?

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It's terrible that he didn't see the film.

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From the Daily Mail Sept 11th 2010

"I got desperate to the point that I accepted a picture in Alaska with Steven Seagal, the martial arts expert. The movie was called On Deadly Ground and the title was to prove apt.

Although Steven and the rest of the team were great to work with, I had broken one of the cardinal rules of bad movies: if you're going to do a bad movie, at least do it in a great location.

Here I was, doing a movie where the work was freezing my brain and the weather was freezing my a***. I vowed never to work in a tough location again. The litmus test for this, I decided, would be my wife. If Shakira refuses to come, I ain't going. I remember asking her if she would like to come to Alaska and she didn't even bother to reply. I should have got the warning.I've been lucky with my career. Like most people, I've screwed up a couple of times and got away with it."

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From the Daily Mail Sept 11th 2010

"I got desperate to the point that I accepted a picture in Alaska with Steven Seagal, the martial arts expert. The movie was called On Deadly Ground and the title was to prove apt.

Although Steven and the rest of the team were great to work with, I had broken one of the cardinal rules of bad movies: if you're going to do a bad movie, at least do it in a great location.

Here I was, doing a movie where the work was freezing my brain and the weather was freezing my a***. I vowed never to work in a tough location again. The litmus test for this, I decided, would be my wife. If Shakira refuses to come, I ain't going. I remember asking her if she would like to come to Alaska and she didn't even bother to reply. I should have got the warning.I've been lucky with my career. Like most people, I've screwed up a couple of times and got away with it."

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Here's a link to the full Daily Mail article:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1311129/Michael-Caine-I-d esperate-I-did-movie-Steven-Seagal-In-Alaska-called-On-Deadly-Ground-T he-title-proved-apt-.html

Most of it doesn't deal with Seagal, but it's a good read...


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Probably because Seagel couldn't act his way out of a paper bag.

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yeah it didnt turn out great, but you can see why he took the job he was in a slump , steven segal was hot property just after undersiege, the budget was big the was differnt, with a good crew and cast, who knew, segal could of been a great director ok he wasnt but you can see why he took the job. it was a fun role for him.had a good cast. and caine hasn defently done alot worse.

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