in god we trust


Its not well known, but the phrase "In god we trust' was not a founding princaple as the judge was going on about in the formation of the government. It wasnt printed until the civil war. and it wasnt adopted by congress as the national motto until 1956

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Not to mention that the US Constitution gives a right to be free from religion as well as choose to believe in it, many of the founding fathers rejected religion.

First time I've seen this film in a while.

I realised it's sappy, cheesy religious non-sense, which is quite franky an insult to intelligent thinking.

Especially the judges rant at the end.

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It's not false, try reading a little about the country's history. And what does this sentence(if you can even call it that)

and btw, thats in God we trust.
even mean?

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thats totally false. i love how you so called athiests try to spread your godlessness.

and btw, thats in God we trust. you people are pathetic and sad.

God and religion aren't one and the same.



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God and religion aren't one and the same.


And your post has nothing to do with what the previous poster said.

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"Liberals, we dont need their scum"

As is abundantly clear, you have enough of your own.

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Attention Atheist bashers: I'm an atheist and I love this film. Everyone get over yourselves, it's a movie, it's entertainment. God lovers, shut up and calm down, you can believe what you want. Atheists, stop being arrogant, it's tiresome and only works if you're being amusing.

Im an agent of chaos!

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This, exactly. I'm not the most devoted Christian, but I agree. Both sides can act rather idiotic when it comes to bashing. The extreme religious nuts do it with the justification based on their flawed interpretation used to push their own corrupt agendas. The extreme Athiest nuts do it because of the justification that "Christians been doing it to us for hundreds of years, so it's only right we can do it back", which is really not that justifiable of an excuse(because only prolonging the cycle of hate doesn't fix anything, and it most certainly is NOT an evolved way of thinking).

It's funny that people like you and me tend to get caught up in the middle, while the most extreme sides tend to make everybody else(and everybody, the majority of people aren't like that, they just rather not speak and get into it), Atheist or Theist, look like horrible, condescending bigots.

Just because Nazi Germany did all the horrific things they did doesn't meant all Germans, now, are bad people. Just because got I threatened by a black gang member doesn't mean all people of minorities are bad hoodlums or criminals. Just because a group of extreme Muslims were responsible for 9/11(and continue terror across the Middle East) doesn't mean all Muslims are bad. Not to generalize and to be man/mature/adult enough to say not all people of a certain group, culture, ethnicity or religion(or lack of) are bad, but the few, vocal and extreme are, and that they don't represent the whole, IS an evolved way of thinking. To scapegoat for the sake of, "Oh wahhhh, they hurt me, so I'm blaming ALL of them!" is elementary school playground BS. It's just an excuse to scapegoat and to justification to hate.

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It's historical record and REPEATED legal precedent. Try again?

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many of the founding fathers rejected religion.


Check your facts. A huge chunk of the founding fathers were ordained ministers! The two least-religious were Franklin, who frequently requested prayer during sessions of Congress, and Jefferson, who used government funding to send missionaries to the Indians. None of them were atheists, and none of them were deists either, at least in the modern sense of the word.

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Check your facts. A huge chunk of the founding fathers were ordained ministers! The two least-religious were Franklin, who frequently requested prayer during sessions of Congress, and Jefferson, who used government funding to send missionaries to the Indians. None of them were atheists, and none of them were deists either, at least in the modern sense of the word.


I never said that the founding fathers were Atheist.

But Franklin and Jefferson were considered Deists:


Religious Affiliation # of
signers % of
signers
Episcopalian/Anglican 32 57.1%
Congregationalist 13 23.2%
Presbyterian 12 21.4%
Quaker 2 3.6%
Unitarian or Universalist 2 3.6%
Catholic 1 1.8%
TOTAL 56 100%


They were mixed in there affiliated religious beliefs.

But their religion is NOT my point, my point is they all agreed in secularism, freedom of religion and from it.

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tenshin, they all did not believe in secularism. There is nothing in the Constitution separating Church from state. What we believe in is not having just one religion or denomination or Church for the USA.

We all should believe in loving the Lord our God with all our heart, mind, soul and strength and loving our neighbor as thyself.

We all stumble with this and I guess you can call all Christians hypocrites as they stumble too.

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"Not to mention that the US Constitution gives a right to be free from religion"

And now we know that you've never read the Constitution of the United States of America.

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Not true. Jesus Coined that national motto when he created America.

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Oh but it's so beautiful how he does that. Within the context of the film's sentimentality you think, "Yes! God! Yes! Santa Claus!"

Then you go back to real life and realize... they are equating the arguments for Santa Claus with the arguments for God.




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Who gives a damn about the Constitution. I don't. I care more about the laws that are more compatible with humans. GOD. The government cannot define GOD because the god of this world is greed. Hence the reason why the people who signed the declaration were rich.

And a movie like this one is the epitome of the worst kind of lies. Getting children to be swept off their feet by a fictional "god like" character that doesn't really exist. When the real GOD has an actual influence on the way we live.

I recommend to any parent that actually cares about their kid to steer clear of this movie.

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"All Religions Are Fairie Tales." I am from the school of thinking, if you try to prove the naked emperor actually has some really gorgeous District One clothes(from The Hunger Games), I will think that you've lost your mind. It's the same with every thing in life. I know religion is the one thing people aren't allowed to complain about, but to me, it's like any other fairy tale myth. The danger some people face because they don't believe is real, even if the fairy tale is as fake as The Great Pumpkin and Santa Claus. Please stop repeating the same old dogma to people who don't think like you do. It's stopped working a long time ago, there's just not enough people who want to admit it.

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No, it's "In God we trust" not "in god we trust" ya feckin' eejit.
Also, I don't know what a "princaple" is. Go back to elementary school.

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