sure billy says to the batter that its legal (when he draws the walk and runs to 2nd right after) and it has happened in the past, but then again its just a movie aint it?
and i was curious, does anyone know if that play really is legal?
It is. Though, it would never work in the Major Leagues.
shareActually it WOULD work....Pete Rose did it a couple of times
and like it stated in the movie Ty Cobb and Sam Crawford of the 1908-1917 Tigers used this play ALL the time
Wouldn't work for a high % if you used it constantly but like in the movie if you just pulled it out one time, I am positive it would work in todays game
It is legal, but doesn't work in today's game, that's why it never happens.
Also, that pickoff play with Jr. is not legal, it's actually a balk to fake a throw to 1st basr, but not 2nd or 3rd
http://www.imdb.com/mymovies/list?l=18145805
it is legal only if the pitcher doesn't put his foot on the rubber. In the movie he probobly did, but in real baseball it's like the hidden ball trick.
shareOnly a lefty pitcher must throw the ball when motioning to first base, which i think was the case in this movie...a righty does not have to, because once you step off the rubber, you are free to do anything you want. In rookie of the year, the hidden ball trick was a balk because the pitcher was on the rubber without the ball, which is illegal
shareEven if doing that fake was legal, i dont think its legal to have the security guard in on the play.
sharethey cant prove he was in on it. all he would have to say would be "they told me to move"
sharestup is correct. Now way they could prove it.
About the walk. I did see it in a big league game, and it was the Twins who pulled it off. Back in the 70's. Rod Carew (who could steal home with the best of them) is on third. Can't remember who the hitter was, might have been Steve Braun, walks, rounds first, goes halfway to second and stops dead in his tracks, attempting to get into a rundown, allowing Carew to score. The Tigers were the opponent. The catcher called time, and the umpire mistakenly gave it to him. The Twins were livid, the batter was sent back to first. TOTALLY wrong call by the ump, heads up by the Tiger catcher to call time and walk two steps towards the mound. The UMP was the one fooled on the play.
Anyway, we did it in high school all the time, and it very rarely DIDN'T work. Teams just started letting us go to second rather than take a chance at throwing the ball away. One time, I walked and scored before the next batter stepped in. Went to second, drew a throw, it went into right center, and I scored. Two runs on one walk.
I think it would work in today's game...meaning that the run would score...more than likely the man would not make second. Unless the pitcher cut the ball off and threw it home...then the guy would be out at the plate.
Or if the runner on third was slow...like Bengie Molina slow.
we're playin the yankees... we're down by one... lonny's on 1st, lous up... waddya do?
i was playin this tournament down in venezuela... they had kids half his age, every one of them speakin spanish... and that's a hard language
That is absurd! You don't know anything about baseball rules....!
shareA few years ago, Braves shortshop Yunel Escobar walked against the Diamondbacks and took second after the walk because no one was around the base and Jose Valverde had no one to throw to.
Chris J. Nelson
Marco Scutaro pulled it off June 18,2009 against the phillies.
I laughed so hard when I saw this, the phillies announcer was so embarrassed
Scutaros a sly devil, and he should be an all-star this year, but he wont cause he plays in Toronto and nobody cares what we Canadians do. Too bad.
Heres the link:
http://mlb.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?content_id=5111035&c_id=mlb
BLUE JAYS 4 LIFE!!!