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The White Breads that rip this movie down


You have no frame of reference. You are probably sitting at the computer your mom bought for you in your suburban home. And NO I'm not making excuses for the people that choose to resort to crime or violence to earn a living or intimidate other people. This movie was about struggle and dreams against huge odds. It was not meant to be critiqued on how the father acted or how "stupid" Agee and Gates were.It's no surprise the kids had problems academically. Inner city schools (and living with the daily threats of crime, poverty, drugs, family breakdown and violence) are not great places to learn. That does not make them stupid. They had amazing athletic talent. How are they losers?

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The reference was to those who rip the movie down. And I honestly think the OP is dead on. There is a knee jerk reaction by many white people when watching movies that depict the black experience. Everything from The Color Purple to anything Tyler Perry is dismissed, ridiculed, diminished, devalued, or flat out mocked because generally speaking, the people with a problem have no frame of reference. Just look at a couple of examples right now...you have The Blind Side which is seemingly beloved by white people and Precious, which gets some of the nastiest responses from white people because the lead actress is overweight. The irony seemingly lost is that young blacks like Michael Oher aren't stupid or incapable, they just don't have a stable environment to flourish in.

So yeah, to be honest, I take what many white people say about movies depicting a black experience with a grain of salt. Because this country has the biggest racial divide culturally anywhere. I'd bet your fortune on it ;)

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I'm not sure what you are talking about. Many white critics and viewers (including myself) love this movie. I dind't realize there was hate for this film.

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*beep* you b****, you dont ever in your life call me or anybody "white bread", you dont see me dropping racist bombs, why do you have do be like that.. you lump us caucasians together and wonder why us "white breads" casually have racist attitudes.

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I bet the OP is just like the mother in this film. Gets 280 dollars a month for free! For doing absolutely nothing and then she complains about it! How can you complain about getting money for free?

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The OP is dead on. The people posting on here should be ashamed.

People with privilege just can't stand to be presented with the truth. And the truth is that the reason you're on top is not because you're smarter or more hard working than everyone else. You're on top because your circumstances made things easier for you. And I'm saying this as a middle-class white person. No rich businessman ever has to work and worry as much or work as hard as Ms. Agee trying to provide for her entire family on welfare. I'm sure it would be much less work for her to actually have a job, so I do believe her that she didn't have much choice--especially considering that she was in school, too.

Also, regarding the "racial slur" used in this subject title: GET OVER IT. Stop acting so offended that you get one innocuous term like "white bread" thrown at you. Non-whites face much more malicious, insidious racism every day. Racism consists of so much more than racial slurs. It's also embedded in the realities people live every day, and in ignorant attitudes towards poor people and non-whites (see the post above mine for examples).

The reason racial slurs against black people are worse than us hearing a "white bread" once in a while is because white people haven't been oppressed throughout history. African Americans have been enslaved, outlawed, and ridiculed throughout American history. Racial slurs against black people are not just words--they're reminders that the historical legacy of hatred against them continues.

"White bread" is not connected to a history of oppression, death, poverty, and hatred. It's just a couple words. Treat it as such.

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