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teenage dope slingers

posted 20 years ago by Dali6105
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This is a response to a viewer's comment (Agent10) on this film posted in May 2002. Hate to bring up the past but...

agent10 wrote:
While this film was a bit corny and poorly acted, it was still poignant in its storytelling techniques. The idea of kids being drug dealers isn't at all improbable, and the lives they seek out seem conducive with the consequences of following such a path in life. Not a very memorable film, but is still an interesting commentary on inner-city culture.

-- this guy seems a bit skeptical with the idea of children slinging dope.
let me guess, you're a white guy, probably middle class or rich and i bet the closest you've ever come to a ghetto or a multi-ethnic neighborhood is from a an episode of 'Law and Order'.
street kids play a critical role in the dope game, as runners (which fresh was doing for esteban) look outs, and even hustlers (drug dealers). Kids can sling rocks too, they're usually out hustling the streets during the day.

what you see as something that is probable, i see everyday.
You also said the acting was poor. Except for maybe esteban's fake azz spanish accent, i thought the acting was pretty good, i grew up around ghetto mother *beep* like that, the acting was pretty convincing to me. Even Fresh's homeboy the spanish kid who got shot up, doesn't he remind you guys of a little fat joe?

don't jock what you can't rock, in other words don't comment on something you know absolutely nothing about, i don't know, that always made sense to me.

[–] Pie7775 20 years ago

Let me guess, your a black guy. Ok sorry, anyway just because he is white doesnt mean that white neighborhoods dont have plenty of drugs. You are acting like drugs are an epidemic that only effects the black/hispanic community. My town has more coke than you can possibly imagine, and I am from a rich town with mostly white people.

"don't jock what you can't rock, in other words don't comment on something you know absolutely nothing about" Oh yeah, why use an expression that needs and explanation. Why not just say, "Dont comment on something you know absolutely nothing about."

[–] jhill11 20 years ago

Pie7775, have you ever noticed that the only place you really ever see cocaine is in white areas? This adds more to the picture that over 70% of all people who actually use drugs are Mexican or African-American.

[–] quinn_larkins 18 years ago

"Let me guess, your a black guy. Ok sorry, anyway just because he is white doesnt mean that white neighborhoods dont have plenty of drugs. You are acting like drugs are an epidemic that only effects the black/hispanic community. My town has more coke than you can possibly imagine, and I am from a rich town with mostly white people."

But the difference is that police don't go after drug dealers in white neighborhoods as aggresively as they go after the ones in poor ghettos. So in white areas the drug dealers don't need look outs and runners.

Illegal drugs is not the epidemic, the epidemic is how law enforcement target poor black areas, disrupting entire communities.

[–] Wakanohana 18 years ago

Quinn Larkins wrote: "But the difference is that police don't go after drug dealers in white neighborhoods as aggresively as they go after the ones in poor ghettos. So in white areas the drug dealers don't need look outs and runners.

Illegal drugs is not the epidemic, the epidemic is how law enforcement target poor black areas, disrupting entire communities."

Narcotics destroy individual lives in any community. But in poorer neighborhoods they can destroy the entire community. People don't buy and sell dope and stolen goods and sex on the street in La Jolla or Grosse Pointe or Winnetka.

Anyone concerned about improving life in the lower-income communities should want and demand tough police enforcement of drug laws and every other kind of laws. The police especially need to go after the gangbangers and all wannabe gangbangers.

[–] thelockbox 17 years ago

I largely agree with you. Although the current system of dealing with, jailing and sentencing pushers and users creates more crime, as it makes those who come out several months or years later more dangerous than when they came in, and with little to no hope and fewer oppurtunities elsewhere.

I'm pro legalization of drugs and prostitution because it would cause gangs and organized crime operations to emplode- because those two are 90% of their income sources. A homicide rate of 23000 a year is unacceptable, and that is fueled by gangs and organized crime. Which doesn't include the number of attempted murders by gangs that dwarf the murder rate.

Fixing the criminal system is not only far more difficult, but impossible.

[–] JuggaKaneanite 20 years ago

I love it when someone makes a stupid statement and gets ass raped over it.

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[–] EmpressClaudia 17 years ago

I don't see why we are attacking someone over his comments anyway. Kids are drug dealers, racism is alive and well in America especially on the internet....the movie should have been seen as a movie not as a black or a white movie or from any perspective other than that of a human perspective but as usual if you don't live in the reality this film was commenting on then you don't see it.

[–] nawdukes 19 years ago

wow... markmcalolan just took the words right out of my mouth... damn that was a nice grill...

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[–] ijonesiii 19 years ago

Obviously, the person who started this thread does not live in a neighborhood where drugs are sold, because anyone who lives in a neighborhood where drugs ARE sold will tell you that tyhe average age of the people out there selling drugs right now is about 19. Kids are often utilized as drug runners because if caught, they are not tried as adults and most likely will not get any jail time, unless they have multiple offenses.

[–] astrsk 19 years ago

it varies from neighborhood to neighborhood. I have met kids 13 and under who sell weed. weed's small time. Coke is usually a white thing 'cause it's so damn expensive. But that doesn't mean other races don't do it. This isn't all about race. Let's get back to the main point: Kids can be drug dealers.

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[–] soldiersooner 18 years ago

there wasn't any drug dealing in Boys in the Hood

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[–] quinn_larkins 18 years ago

"You misquoted agent10. "isn't at all improbable" means definitely so or absolutely so, and is not the same as "probable".
Besides, your overanalysis of agent10's description could be interpreted as a way of you bragging about ghetto life or something you "see everyday"."

No it doesn't. not improbable means it's probable. Probable means that it's likely or possible, but no definite.

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[–] bigchz 18 years ago

Mark I love how you flaunt your big words and seem to overanalyze a perfectly legitimate post, all the while contradicting yourself by flaming the original poster for doing precisely the same thing. Agent10 wrote "the idea of kids being drug dealers isn't at all improbable." The original poster got it exactly right, as improbable suggests that it is "unlikely" which means that there was some doubt in his mind. He is hinting at the chance that kids as young as Fresh may not even sell drugs as was depicted in the movie, but that there is a good chance that they do (not unlikely that they do). Jonathan said agent10 seemed a bit skeptical, which is very understandable and I'd have to agree.

That is all.. next time don't be so eager to shoot someone down with your big words and big ego. Take that *beep* elsewhere.

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