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The Urban Geography of 'Fresh'


I recently watched this movie, and I was quite intrigued by amount of urban decay and poverty. I study urban geography, which includes the research of urban subcultures-mainly graffiti, urban decay, and violent crime. I am not sure of where this movie takes place. It quite possibly was East New York or even Brownsville, which at the time (1993-1994) were among the cities most drug-plagued neighborhoods. However, I did take notice of where Hector (a heroin dealer working with Esteban) told Fresh where the cash for the drugs was hidden (11th and J). I entered that data into Mapquest and it indicated that it was in the southern part of Brooklyn, north of Bensonhurst. The address may have just been made up to mirror the fictional nature of the film. There were a great numbers of condemmed buildings in the movie, so it is very likely that the film takes place in the Brownsville area. The area used to be largely inhabited by Jewish migrants from Eastern Europe, but as businesses migrated to other areas of the city and land values plummeted, large numbers of poor African-Americans and Puerto Ricans moved in, and with the poverty came an underground economy that included prostitution and drug trafficking. The same held true for East New York. Fresh's aunt mentions Bushwick, another beleaguered neighborhood in Brooklyn, where she would send Fresh to a group home.

The drug gangs in the movie show the violent nature of the inner-city areas of large US cities. Although, violent crime has been reduced in many major cities thanks to increased police presence, arrests of drug lords and dealers, and "Weed and Seed" programs, it is sad to say that such behavior is commonplace in smaller cities. Drug dealers have been pushed out of New York City, Philadelphia, and other major cities; they have been settling in cities that have similar demographic characteristics and less tactful police departments.

In 2004, I completed an honors thesis for college graduation in Reading, PA, a city of 82,000 people in eastern Pennsylvania. Reading has a large concentration of Hispanic and African-American people, many of which are poor or lower-middle class. Reading proved to be an ideal market for these drug gangs to set up new markets, and gun crime and drug-trafficking skyrocketed. In 2000, Reading had 38 homicides; a number that is even less than many cities such as Buffalo, NY or even Cleveland. Gun battles frequented the streets of Reading's most dilapidated sections, much like they did in "Fresh." Reading is working to improve the crime rate, but it still ranks among the most dangerous cities in the nation based on population categories. Therefore, I can really relate to "Fresh" and the struggles I saw with the residents of public housing interviewed in my thesis. Mercifully, the Reading residents I interviewed did not have to live in fear, thanks to excellent police patrols and crime watch groups.

Thus, "Fresh" is a great film that seems to reach into some depths of my research and my interests. I recommend it for anyone wishing to see some of the lifestyles inner-city people faced during the early 1990s.

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Hey, I Know What You Mean, I live In The City Of Reading And It Is Pretty Bad.

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this movie took place in Harlem.

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This movie is filmed in BUSHWICK and WILLIAMSBURG.

The train is the J and M train roaring along Broadway.
You see Woodhull hospital in the scene where the kids shoot and the images of comic book hereos appear. The J,M,L junction station is used throughout the movie.
The disused traintracks are near the L line. The chess park looks a little bit like Washington Square Park but I am not 100%. The basketball court is the JHS school yard I think it is IS 233...

Harlem. Which scene is Harlem? If any?

Great movie, well scripted. The kids acted like professionels and I am surprised that i havent seen them in more things. The young kids cast in the Wire pop up in many places.. like the guy from Season 4..Micheal.

This is from 1994 and these kids should be everywhere.. I guess there are not a lot of roles for young black and latin kids unless in drug flicks. That is why I like Lincoln Heights. The cop show on ABC family.. enough of the negative casting and bringing some positive images. So let us get more of these actors in the roles.

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My ex watched this with me and swore it took place in Chicago and even named off street names that he thought the scenes were filme on.

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Lol!! Chicago?? I'm from Queens,NY and have been to the Chi on more than a few occasions. But other than both being large urban cities,they don't really look that much alike. Especially if you are from there. I can ALWAYS tell when a movie is set in NY or Chitown. Got nothing but love for my Midwest urbanites though! Lol!! Hardcore city,Chitown!


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Definitely not Harlem I was born and raised there. So i can say that for sure. Now at first look at the movie i thought it was taking place in the Jerome ave. section of the Bronx. But upon closer inspection i realize the original poster is correct in his assumption of it taken place in Brooklyn. Most possibly the East New York area as mentioned by another poster.

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It took place in brooklyn, you can see chuckie wearing a brooklyn jersey

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right, cause if you wear a jersey, thats where the movie has to take place...lol.
not saying it isnt in brooklyn, just a ridiculous argument..see the post above you for some factual evidence..great movie regardless of what city it was filmed in or was trying to portray...a good hard look at what its like growing up in tough neighborhoods. Why isnt sean nelson in more films?? the kid was great in this!

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Pretty sure its Brooklyn. 11th and J is the intersection of Avenue J and 11th Ave(or Coney Island Ave). I think thats the Flatbush section of Brooklyn.

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It's Bushwick and Brownsville. I know the area well. Not even remotely like Harlem.

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I live in the area the film was shot. Yes definantly bushwick. Hence the j/m trains nearby stations in the film are myrtle or flatbush ave. The chess scenes should be a park in manhattan.
Saying this film was taken place in harlem is the stupidest ive herd. Movies try to make harlem look bad its not even funny.

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Harlem is now becoming Haarlem...again. The Dutch want their city back. But you guys are right, Brooklyn's got those wild cowboys! Lol! Very proud!! It's all good. I'm proud of Queens!! South Ozone Park,Cambria Heights,Rosedale,South Jamaica and Rochesdale,baby!!!

There can be only one...

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i hear u on that. harlem cleaner now. way cleaner

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Not exactly. Most of the movie is set in Bedford-Stuvyesant and Williamsburg.

We only go to Bushwick with scenes regarding James, and the last scene, which is the fight between Esteban and Corky's gangs

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Thank you Jambie67.. I am telling these people from Kansas and Arizona.. that it is Bushwick..

Instead of reading my post they are looking at the SHIRT being worn!!

Peace!

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Crime rates fell because of legalization of abortion. By the mid nineties the young criminal age group of 12-22 year olds in this country survived abortion. Prior to legalization we had some badasses who survived long odds being born that would have been aborted had it been legal. Would-be mommas are to be commended for solving the crime problem.

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What about post term abortion? That would solve our problem with you. Think about it.

I'm here to kill you all. Now who's first?

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Wow, you mean somebody else read Freakonomics, too?

It's a correlational study, dumbass. Not a causation.

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bedford stuyvesant is where the film is set.





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i always thought this movie took place in the bx. it was just an assumption tho

i have no idea how anyone can think it's harlem tho. the hole manhattan always look really different to me.

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bronxville bushwick bedstuy vernon were the locals i recognized

under the train track scenes were def on broadway myrtle union ish

where fresh looks and sees the red birds and the silver trains pass each other should be vernon


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Not exactly. This movie was set in Bed-Stuy, Bushwick and Williamsburg scenes where Fresh is dealing drugs and having the two meetings with Corky. There was also a scene in Vinegar Hill (the neighborhood just north of the BQE, when it crosses Tilary). In the montage of Fresh running, we also see part of Clinton Hill.

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