According to the book and movie, the war in Russia is still dragging on into 1964. My question is this: Where in Russia is fighting still going on?
Has Moscow fallen or did the Germans never get that far?
According to the book, the fighting continues, led by Stalin and the exiled and fragmented government, beyond the Urals, an area so vast that the Germans have never been able to fully subjugate it.
Everything West of the Urals, including Moscow, has been incorporated into the Reich, Moscow being located in Reichkommisariat Muscovy.
The movie sucked because by June of 1944, even if D-Day had failed the Soviets were rolling towards Poland, and would still have crushed the German Army. Operation Bagration from June-August 1944 was one of the most devastating defeats for Germany on the Eastern Front.
The book was much better explained alternate history.
The only that Nazi Germany could have pushed the USSR was if they had had a Nuclear bomb, and they didn't.
I'm a Republican, and thats my opinion on this matter.
The book's scenario was at least plausible, with the Germans Caucasus offensive not ending in defeat at Stalingrad.
In the movie, the Red Army would have still reached Berlin, by June 1944 the Eastern Front was dominated by the Soviets, with D-Day or without.
your name is euroman and you're a Republican?
With the failure of D-Day why would the US Fail against Japan as well?
Wouldn't the allies try again?
Yeah I am european conservative who got in Texas in 04, and been here legally ever since. But just let you know you I am pro stemcell research, and pro-choise. But everything else I agree with the GOP!
I'm a Republican, and thats my opinion on this matter.
D-Day was a second attempt to land in France.
THe first was in August 1942 at Dieppe, when a mostly-Canadian force was crushed by the Germans.
You have obviously not seen either the movie nor read the book, in both it clearly states that Japan still lost, since they were in a hopeless situation from the beginning.
For me it's hard to believe the book scenario (there is hardly any clue in the movie): after a big blitzkrieg-style motorized war with panzer divisions flashing into the caucasus, moscu and all the way to the Urals, war keeps going as an endless sucesion of border skirmishes, maybe in a WWI trench fighting style. Why don't the germans mount another blitzkrieg to the East to destroy what it's left of the Red Army instead of draining themselves in such a war? As for the soviets themselves, would they be capable of sustaining such a war deprived of his industrial centers?
And, as regards the guerilla war, don't forget that in real history, the success of partisans in the eastern front and resistance movements in the west was mostly due to the help they received from the USSR the former and the Anglo-saxons, the latter. But isolated and deprived of support, partisans would have been much less efective, so the scenario of a thriumphant Reich harrassed by guerillas everywhere in Eastern Europe, doesn't sound too realistic, IMHO
I think Dieppe was a sabotage raid that went bad and was not meant to be of any length.
Indeed - Dieppe was a large scale commando raid (same as at St Nazaire) that was also used as a small-scale rehearsal for various elements of D-Day. Unfortunately, Dieppe did go badly wrong, one way or another.
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