Did anybody else realize how lame it was that they brought back a dead character from the first movie by making it his identical twin brother? As far as I can tell that's the worst sequel mistake ever-can anybody else think of a better one?
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It makes fun of cliches and such!
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Mine beats all of those: Home Alone 4
Slobberknocker!
I agree with you. Home Alone 4 is THE WORST SEQUEL MISTAKE EVER!!
Especially since the age of Kevin McCallister is I believe is one year younger than Home Alone 2 making the actual time line order
Home Alone 1
Home Alone 4
Home Alone 2
But then also has Kevin's parent's on the brink of a divorce AND kevin's two older siblings have aged down to about kevin's age so ....
Ok whoever made Home Alone 4 must've seen Home Alone 1 once, then after many years made a script based on what they could remember (which wasn't much), and then made up the story w/out even doing research on the freaking previous movies.
Nice deadnewearth but you forgot a few.
Everything about Highlander 2 except Sean Connery & even THAT is a stretch
Everything about Mortal Kombat 2
Kirk's death on a rusty bridge in Star Trek: Generations
Everything about Pet Semetary 2
Christian Bales Batgrowl that's supposed to pass for Batman's voice
Something about Robocop 2 that I STILL havent figured out yet
Everything about Robocop 3
The Ewoks from Return of the Jedi
C3-PO
Everything about Omen 4 The Awakening
Wayne's World 2
All that being said I can STILL see the original posters point.
It SHOULD have been Curly and I think that it was supposed to have been and was disastrously changed to be his twin brother in post production.
"Be nice until it's time to NOT be nice."
It SHOULD have been Curly and I think that it was supposed to have been and was disastrously changed to be his twin brother in post production.
i dont understand.... they buried Curly in the first film, so are you saying he somehow should have resurrected from the dead?
and how can you change what's been filmed in post-production? "post" means after and refers to the editing process AFTER the filming has been completed.
It's like this LocoHero.
I know for a FACT that after the first film Billy Crystal was talking about bringing back Jack Palance's Curly character by explaining that he suffered from Narcolepsy and that his heartbeat had slowed but not stopped in the first film so in effect they wouldn't have been bringing him back from the dead since he never would've died to begin with. Mix that with something I read indicating that they DID film it that way, with Palance as CURLY not his twin brother but then decided in post(yes AFTER. MANY films are changed in post-production)production to alter it to Duke. No doubt new scenes would've been filmed and old ones cut all to provide one of the biggest cinematic blunders and franchise killers around!
"Be nice until it's time to NOT be nice."
ok i get it.
so r u saying it would've been better to have had the Curly character re-appearing? and that would have made a massive difference to the quality of the film how?
Curly having a twin is not so far-fetched is it? Rather that than a person who has been buried, buried in the ground without air, rising from the grave and carrying on as normal?
It would've made the film better because it would've made it more GENUINE.
The audience CARED about Curly and grew to love him. When it appears that he's dead you really FEEL the loss for a lot of reasons. People didn't know "Duke" from a hole in the wall. And yes a twin brother who'd spent his entire life at sea looking EXACTLY the same as one who'd spent it in an arid climate (Scars and all!)IS far fetched. Maybe a narcoleptic presumed dead crawling out of his grave is too but 2 things MADE "City Slickers", Billy Crystal & JACK PALANCE. Whatever nit-wit decided to forgo a return of Curly which would've been enthusiastically applauded by the audience that loved him for a ridiculous caricature that looked like him should receive ten thousand paper cuts, ALL AT ONCE!
"Be nice until it's time to NOT be nice."
a return of Curly which would've been enthusiastically applauded by the audience that loved him
No offence, it's quite possible you'd be the only person applauding.
BTW, how does someone survive burial and suffocation?
I'd buy the twin over the miracle ressurection any day of the week.
I doubt I'd be the only one applauding but you may be the only one to prefer Duke over Curly.
Who said that he suffocated?
As far as surviving burial, ever see "Kill Bill" or any of the other films and TV shows that had someone buried alive surviving? If he never died in the first place it wouldnt exactly be a "miracle resurrection" now would it?
If you think "City Slickers 2" was fine as is, superior to the original, or that Duke is a better character than Curly, then you're entitled to your opinion but it IS in the minority.
"Be nice until it's time to NOT be nice."
lol i never said the sequel was any good, i couldnt really give 2 figs for it.
the original was a very enjoyable feel-good movie.
i'm just not bothered about whether it was curly, curly's twin or curly's clone from outer space.
It doesn't keep me awake at night either but I DO think it was one of the reasons the first one was good & the second one stank.
"Be nice until it's time to NOT be nice."
I don't think the 2nd one stunk and IMO I thought it was almost equally as good as the first.
I think thought the point that putting Duke in there wasn't a bad idea is the fact that, as much as we all loved Curly, we had to settle with Duke. So we don't give a rat's a$$ about Duke. But that worked for the movie because we got to learn about Duke to make our opinions about him, plus he opened up more about Curly's life. Curly seemed like a real cowboy rancher, whereas Duke was more of a gold digger and treasure hunter. Plus did you (and I wonder if anyone else) noticed that the movie revolved around a story about brothers, yet also made two other brothers reflect on their own relationship?
Duke & Curly, brothers with a distant relationship
Mitch & Glen, brothers with a distant and throughout the movie a troubled relationship.
Duke wanted to find the gold with Curly but in the end Mitch & Glen found the gold working together (with Duke and Phil's help of course). Made their bond stronger. Duke wanting to finish what him and his brother wanted to do helped out Mitch and Glen. I actually would've gotten annoyed about the banter and interaction between Mitch and Glen if it had been Curly leading them to the gold because to me it would've been a forced problem for Mitch to have just so he can go on this adventure with Curly. I mean why bring him along since Glen never met Curly before.
As much thought as you've put into it and as subjective as ALL art is "City Slickers 2" is no more the equal to the original than the abysmal "Highlander 2" in my not so humble opinion and I think that the critical AND box failure of them both supports my contention.
"Be nice until it's time to NOT be nice."
I guess we'll just have to stay on opposite sides of the argument then.
On a side note, I still haven't found out the truth about what you said yet about Curly possibly being the original character for the sequel, but I won't dismiss it either because with Hollywood, anything is possible. If I ever get the DVD of the second movie (which I will) I'll check out the special features and see if they mention anything about it.
Please do.
I KNOW that I read Billy Crystal describing Curly's return before the sequel was ever made but he may have been talked out of it, or some stupid studio executives may have decided against it or something. Who knows?
No shame in agreeing to disagree.
I myself like many films that aren't considered classics and am conversely unimpressed with many that ARE considered classics. Art is an interpretive medium. To each their own.
"Be nice until it's time to NOT be nice."
- EVERYTHING about INDIANA JONES 4 - especially the casting of Shia LaBeouf.
- Making a 4th Terminator film, without Arnold, and trying to market the success of it on the horrible Christian Bale. That's like trying to make a Dirty Harry film without Eastwood. What's the point?
- BREAKIN' 2: ELECTRIC BOOGALOO
- MISS CONGENIALITY 2?? Come on.
- GREASE 2 - Ughhhh.
Citizen Kane II: the snowglobe had water from the fountain of youth
shareNothing wrong with Oceans 12 and Be Cool. And the fact that you mentioned Jason Vorhees only shows no one should take you seriously. lol
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I agree with deadnewearth on this one.
shareBeverley Hills Cop 2
Crocodile Dundee 2
Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
I don't think city slickers 2 is so bad, and having Curly's "brother" in it didnt bother me.
Every sequel after the original Highlander,but especially Higlander 2 - The Quickening.
Probably the worst sequel I can think of.
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Forget about the worst sequel mistake ever... this movie is the perfect example of cashing in on a pretty good movie by making a HORRIBLE sequel! It was such a retread of the original that it actually ruins the first movie, which was no Academy Award winner but a nice film. Put this one in the same category as "Grumpier Old Men" and all of the Planet of the Apes follow-ups. Sometimes (well, MOST times, actually) a movie doesn't need a sequel, just let it stand on it's own. For God's sake, sometimes Hollywood has to resist the sequel urge!!
shareI disagree with a lot of you. I did find more enjoyment in this film then the first one. The first one was good. It seemed the sequel was more character driven to me. Mitch and Glen. Plus I loved the addition to Jon Lovitz
shareHow about Schwarzenegger going from villain to hero in Terminator.
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Meatballs 2, 3, 4.
Oceans 12 (lame idea to have Julia Roberts play someone that looks like Julia Roberts!)
Grease 3 (more commonly referred to as HIGH SCHOOL MUSICAL) - Why I know this, eludes me!
Home Alone 3 & 4.
Revenge of the Nerds 2, 3, 4.
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