He promised Roger that if the Angels win the World Series they can be a family again. Well at the end when they did win why did he not keep that promise, why did he not want his son to live with him. They did win so he should have kept his son right.
shareMaybe because it was an excuse the whole time to NOT have to take responsibility for his son? Do people really have to ask these questions?
shareRoger's father said that he'd come get him 'when the Angels win the pennant' because this was a softer way of saying 'never'. His father thought the Angels could never win (which they probably couldn't at the time) so wouldn't ever have to come get Roger.
I thought this way pretty clear from the film, but hey?
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Yes, he meant Never or Almost certainly never. I was always confused why exactly he was unable to come get him (he's very vague at the hearing).
sharedude i understood this concept when i was a second grader in 1994 are you seriously just getting it this late in life?
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I used to be confused about this. I thought that by saying they could be a family when the angels win the pennant mean that they really could win the pennant, and for years I wondered why that was (thinking he might have worked for the angels, or bet on them alot). And I was confused when the kid saw his father and realised that they still couldn't be a family. It wasn't until I read the Wikipedia description that I realised that the father didn't think they could ever be a family again. I read there that, when asked when they could be a family again, he said "I'd say when the angels win the pennant", which would sound more like a guess (all this time I just thought he said "when the angels win the pennant").
Was it ever explained in the movie why the kid didn't live with his parents (I guess his mother died)? Of course, he only prayed for the Angels to win so that they can be afamily again... Maybe he should have just prayed to be with his father again.
he was being sarcastic an Roger took him literaly.
He could'nt come back to get him even if he could anyways. He already signed him over to the state BEFORE the angles won the pennet.
I think he did'nt want him was because he was young and restless and he wanted to travell america and party and because he didn't have the means to really give him the life Roger deserved. He said at the herring that it ws'nt a choice he was proud of and could'nt change his mind about.
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Exactly, Roger took him literally.
When in fact, his father REALLY said, "The chance I come back is the chance that the Angels win the pennant."
For those thick-headed that translates to: "Not a chance in hell sonny boy."
For the baseball historically challenged, when this movie was made, the Angels never won a pennant.
After being one strike away in 1986, there were many who felt the Angels wer a star-crossed organization that had many tragedies including the death of several players: Dick Wantz, Mike Miley, Bruce Heinbechner, Chico Ruiz, and Lyman Bostock. You could throw in the auto accident that paralyzed Minnie Rojas, who was the franshice leader in saves until the mid 1980s. The numerous medicore seasons, playoff chokes in 1982 and 1986 and never having more that two season finishing above .500.
The dad saying "When the Angels win the pennant (which means winning the American League, not the division)," he was really saying "never."
As everyone else said here, saying they'll be a family again when Angels win World Series is just a way of saying chances of it are slim.
My guess about Roger's father giving him away is he simply couldn't handle a one-parent job. Remember when it was mentioned about Roger's mom having passed away? The father said he wasn't proud of his decision and couldn't change his mind about it, so I suppose he did what he did for Roger regretfully and didn't want to give him away but did because he thought Roger would be better off.
His father said that would only be a family if the Angels won the pennent. This was sarcasim. Roger, wanting to believe his father, prayed for God to help in some way to get the Angels to win so that he could be a family again. God took the prayer literally. After the Angels win, Roger is part of a family. His prayer was fully answered. This is a great example of be careful what you wish for.
In the end good things did come out of Roger taking his dad's comments seriously and his prayer. He found a new father figure in George and family with the team and JP. George changed and became a better person and it seemed like the players changed their lives too.
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