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Urotsukidoji/Dr. Strangelove

posted 17 years ago by CahillSellers
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or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Overfiend!

I've heard and read the Overfiend films being compared (for better or for worse) to the ending of Akira, the Marquis De Sade, Grand Guignol, etc. I'm sure the fans all know the list. But I always felt this was more along the lines of Dr. Strangelove more than anything else. I don't mean this in the sense that its a remake or homage, but both films explore the same themes. Both films present the Apocalypse as the Ultimate F---. No horsemen, no plagues, no seven seals, just a build up to a worldwide orgasm of destruction that will result from Nagumo and Akemi's explosive intercourse, just as Dr. Strangelove showed the courtship in the form of Cold War of two superpowers, which eventually ends in nuclear catastrophe. Though Overfiend was the inevitable fulfillment of ancient prophecy, Dr. Strangelove was more of a case of slipping on a banana peel.
Both movies also show how mankind (or in Overfiend's case, mankind, man-beasts, and demons) ultimately follows its most primal urges, despite reason, conscience or common sense; the urge to screw, the urge to destroy, the urge to love, the urge to kill. We're all animals when you get right down to it, and I'm not saying that in a negative way. And while we can talk a great game about our motives and reasons behind our actions, it can all be traced back to these desires and urges that are ingrained within our psyches and souls. Granted, both films do take an EXTREMELY GROTESQUE route in showing these aspects of ourselves (I don't think that deep down, we all wish that we could sprout mutant genitalia or let out our sexual frustrations by ordering a nuclear attack on Russia, at least, not all of us), but that's the point. To take these buried feelings and shove them into the viewers' faces, giving them the option of dealing with it or running like hell (either course is completely understandable, its not an easy pill to swallow).
Sex and death goes hand-in-hand with these films at every opportunity as well, even in small, subtle ways. Such as Nagumo and Akemi's first attempt at phyiscal love occurs when his parents are at a funeral or George C. Scott smooth talking his Playmate girlfriend with war metaphors in his apartment ("Ol' Bucky'll be back before you can say BLAST OFF!!!"). The best image that comes to mind that ties these films together was the opening shot of Legend of the Demonwomb: A painting of a WW2 era pin up model in a seductive pose decorating the side of a B-52, which would fit perfectly if it were a shot in Dr. Strangelove.
Sex and death; creation and destruction; good and evil. This, I tell you, brother, you can't have one without the other. Out of great destruction, great creation can occur, and great creation will inevitably end with great destruction, which will lead to more great creation... and the beat goes on...

Or as Ameno puts it at the end of Demonwomb: "If there's an Overfiend, perhaps there's an Evil King... heh-heh, I LIKE THIS!"
Amen, Ameno. Nice shirt, by the way. Oh, and can you introduce me to your sister?

"But, hey, that's me, I could be wrong."

[–] priorityoverride 17 years ago

Very nice! A great analogy that I never thought of until you mentioned it. Which is strange considering that I like Dr. Strangelove just as well as Urotsukidoji. High five dude. Oh, and by the way, lol, don't even think about trying to test Megumi's waters. She'll grind you up and spit out the seeds sport.

[–] CahillSellers 17 years ago

so what's the downside? We all gotta go, might as well go out in STYLE.

"But, hey, that's me, I could be wrong."

[–] priorityoverride 17 years ago

Too true. Too true. ;^P

[–] oxymoron_02 17 years ago

You just spoiled the end of Dr. Strangelove for me. It's one of those classics I've never had the opportunity to see, and now there's no point.

Thanks.

[–] CahillSellers 17 years ago

Sorry, I figured nearly half a century would be enough time for you to get around to it. Oh, and by the way, Rosebud turned out to be Citizen Kane's sleigh, too.

"But, hey, that's me, I could be wrong."

[–] oxymoron_02 17 years ago

Half a century? I haven't even been alive for half of -that-. I'm 21, dear, and I don't have limitless amounts of time and money with which to watch, purchase or rent movies I want to see.

[–] CahillSellers 17 years ago

Well, my only suggestion is to spend less time writing complaints on the imdb and more time watching the movies you want to read discussions about.

"But, hey, that's me, I could be wrong."

[–] oxymoron_02 17 years ago

I refer you again to my lack of time and money. Some of us lead busy lives.

[–] CahillSellers 17 years ago

But not busy enough to engage in pointless complaints on the internet? And with every post you waste more time.
So are you finished yet? Because I, for one, am getting quite bored with this back and forth. So feel free to post one more message so you can get that all-important last word you seem to crave oh-so-much and we can all move on with our busy, hectic lives.

"But, hey, that's me, I could be wrong."

[–] oxymoron_02 17 years ago

Oh, ok then! :D

As you can see it's been a while since I checked these boards. Like I said, busy lives.

[–] Day_of_the_dead_living 17 years ago

"You just spoiled the end of Dr. Strangelove for me. It's one of those classics I've never had the opportunity to see, and now there's no point.

Thanks."

The title was "Urotsukidoji/Dr. Strangelove",
and you still feel you have the right to attack the original poster
for "spoiling" the ending of Dr. Strangelove? It never occured to you
that there was a chance the post actually had something to do with
Dr. Strangelove, that it was written for the people who had seen
both and would know what it was all about, and that not reading it
would be a great way of avoiding spoilers...?

Is there any chance you are the same person who sued
McDonalds of America, when she spilled their coffee?

[–] Osamu-Miyazaki 17 years ago

CahillSellers, excellent analogy!!!

Day Of The Dead Living, you're right!!!

[–] andrewsuperior 17 years ago

"You just spoiled the end of Dr. Strangelove for me. It's one of those classics I've never had the opportunity to see, and now there's no point.

Thanks."

The title was "Urotsukidoji/Dr. Strangelove",
and you still feel you have the right to attack the original poster
for "spoiling" the ending of Dr. Strangelove? It never occured to you
that there was a chance the post actually had something to do with
Dr. Strangelove, that it was written for the people who had seen
both and would know what it was all about, and that not reading it
would be a great way of avoiding spoilers...?

Is there any chance you are the same person who sued
McDonalds of America, when she spilled their coffee?

QFT

[–] Forlorn_Rage 10 years ago

Is there any chance you are the same person who sued
McDonalds of America, when she spilled their coffee?

You might want to check out the full story of woman who sued McDonald's(not because she spilled coffee on herself), one of the most misconstrued media stories of all time, before using it as an argument next time.

[–] TimDbase 11 years ago

Then why did you click on a thread called "Urotsukidoji/Dr. Strangelove" whilst knowing that these boards mention spoilers?

[–] robl0051 10 years ago

Cause he was 21.

[–] imdpr 10 years ago

Do you believe that this is true? That people are only guided by these urges? I always thought the film intended to associate power with intense urges, not necessarily say that all people are controlled by them.