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What's with the nudity in this one? Artistic or horny director?


Now, I know what some of you might say. I know SC is an "art" movie, and so it can contain nudity, and I have nothing wrong with that in general when it contributes to the film. For example, A Clockwork Orange wouldn't be that powerful without the nudity and rape scenes, allowing us to get into Alex's head. And theres a lot of other examples where nudity improves the film, makes it more powerful, more shocking, etc. But I just can't see that in SC.

I mean, most of the nudity in it is so casual, usually goes unnoticed, and it doesn't change the film at all (maybe other then the cello player suicide, where nudity was needed). I mean, would it be a lesser film if Jullian Moore would have done her cheating speech with panties? It actually took away from the scene, distracting the audience, and it didn't contribute at all. Same goes for Chris Penn's wife and Frances Mcdormand - I mean, would it make the film less good if Frances would have walked around with a towel on?

My point is, I just don't see why the film has so much nudity. Why did Altman had to ask nearly all the female actress to get naked for the part. That's embaressing for an actress, and it doesn't serve the film. Really the only logical explanation is that Altman wanted to see them all naked...

Maybe someone here could explain it to me.

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there is nothing really to explain.I think that scene was shot in a way that had nothing horny.it was comic-tragic.it was not even pulp as someone said.I have the same reaction when in blake edwards movie dicks and boobs show up.they're just part of the script and make sense.at least to me.

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You people sure read a lot into a director's desire to show nudity. There's hardly ever a reason to show it, but these are men we are talking about. You walking dicks don't need a reason, right? But let's all pretend it's "artsy" or "a strong move" so we don't look like pervs. Not buying it! I agree with the OP that it added nothing to the movie... Altman is just one of THOSE directors.

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Oh, I'm sure I could be if I tried. I don't feel the need to ban paintings with nudity but I don't enjoy them. I don't get what the draw is... I've seen nudity before, it's boring and adds little, if anything, to ANY movie. I'm not "distracted by genitalia"... I'm bored with lazy directors who use nudity to add interest to the uninteresting. I find it amusing that you label me "simple minded" when that is exactly how I describe the people these movies pander to... lol! Again, the movie didn't call for nudity; it would have been better without it.

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Nudity is unnecessary in most cases. It has nothing to do with being offended, it has to do with being tired of directors being lazy and using nudity as a crutch, a distraction, instead of displaying any talent. The scene you describe as hilarious due to JM's lack of panties, rings hollow and tasteless to me. I'm as entitled to my opinion as you are to yours.

My "fallacies begin to surface"... seriously? I didn't attack anyone, I simply found it amusing that you would describe me in the same way I would describe you. You told me to stop being distracted by genitalia and think; well, I would say exactly the same to you.

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"It has to do with being tired of lazy directors being lazy and using nudity as a crutch, a distraction".

A crutch to do what? A distraction from what? If you weren't indeed so distracted and apparently offended by it, you might have noticed that it does the opposite, reinforcing what is being talked about as well as re-emphacizing Modine's character's discomfort and insecurity around his wife; Moore is bearing it all in more ways than one there. Also, people ARE naked at one time or another, especially in a domestic setting; there's nothing "unnecessary" or "gratuitous" about it.



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And I disagree. Get over it.

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I love nudity, but anything more than implied is not necessary.

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Yeah and I love bowler hats - as long as nobody wears them.



"facts are stupid things" Ronald Reagan

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Yes, mother.

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