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So many inaccuracies in this film. And Dan Devine was the real hero.


Let's face it, if it weren't for Devine playing Rudy that day, Rudy would have never made a career and no one would know who he was. This movie would have never been made. Dan Devine (coach that comes in after Parseghian from the Green Bay Packers) is portrayed as the person who doesn't want Rudy to dress. They then have this dramatic scene where the team lays their jerseys on his desk.

It was actually Devine's idea for Rudy to play. Why did the screenplay/writing portray him in such an unfair light? Dan Devine was really upset that they movie did this. Devine should deserve more recognition. He's the reason Rudy played that day, and it was his idea to play him. If it weren't for Devine, this never would have had the ending (and arguably been made into a movie).

Source: http://espn.go.com/page2/s/merron/021202.html

Dan Devine is the real hero. Someone should remake the movie where a great coach decides to play an untalented player with a huge heart. But I'd really be curious to know why they treated Devine so unfairly in this script/story.

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For those of us who never attended Notre Dame, never played football, never had any interest in sports or much of anything the story of Rudy plays along really well.

I would guess that having an adversarial coach would have enhanced the drama as just another adversary for Rudy to overcome that would play well into the storytelling. There was no brother named "Frank" either! Frank was included as an all inclusive metaphor for all those who belittled poor Rudy.

Stories and screenplays like Rudy usually just don't work well when the writers follow the exact real life story-line, too boring, minimal drama, etc. There are elements in a screenplay that just need to be rewritten, revised, or extracted so as to enhance the drama and excitement in order to make the movie more enjoyable to watch and attract a larger audience.

For those of us ignorant to the true facts of what transpired for Rudy we don't really know or really want to know. I enjoyed the movie, the story, and especially the music score. There are elements of Rudy that equal some aspects of real people's lives including my own! So, the Coach Dan Devine may be upset over how he was portrayed and his hero aspect wouldn't have played well though it could be argued that the aspect of a real life inspiring coach's purpose may have contributed and perhaps enhanced the movie.

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I felt coach Devine was redeemed at the end when he smiled about the situation.

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As it says in the article, screenwriter Angelo Pizzo was trying to portray Devine not as evil, but as a final obstacle standing in the way of Rudy's dream. Two of the most important moments in Rudy's story are when Rudy learns he will play in the final game, and when he actually is put into the game. Pizzo probably thought these moments needed to be emphasized and played up more to have greater dramatic impact.

Personally, I think it would have worked fine to show Rudy finding out that he would be in the last game by reading his name on the posted list, or by hearing about it at the final practice (which is what the article says really happened).

What's unfortunate is that the filmmakers offered Devine the opportunity to read the screenplay to see how he would be portrayed, but he declined to do so. He signed off on his portrayal without knowing what it was like.

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Devine DID NOT just simply play Rudy...he was talked into by a number of players. I actually have met one of them that helped in getting Rudy to play...Ross Browner.

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I don't know everything that really happened, but from a film point of view after all that work and overcoming all those obstacles, it would have been a bit uneven for him to waltz into the game with no conflict.

I saw the movie with my friend and his dad who attended Notre Dame and was at the game. The only thing he told us about what really happened was that he said the chant wasn't really as dramatic as they made it out in the movie. He didn't even hear it, or know who Rudy was. The film does make an effort to say that it's the student body (as opposed to the whole stadium) chanting for Rudy, but what they actually show implies the whole stadium was cheering for him. He did say that there was a chant though, unlike Montana who says it didn't happen. Perhaps Montana just couldn't hear the chant from where he was on the field/sideline (I don't know if he was starting then or not), which would also mean Devine probably didn't hear it. So if he wasn't bowing to the chant then he probably just did the nice thing for Rudy.

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Have you read the book, "Rudy", that came out about three years ago? It will answer all your questions.

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