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Ending

posted 18 years ago by Tdownes78
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OK even though We don't know for sure, I think that they found who the right murderer was, even though Tia said the line about japanese employees taking the wrap for their bosses.

Anyways about Wesley and Tia. Who else thinks they got it on while Connerey was playing golf? I mean she told Wesley when he figured out the line about always leave the cage door open for the bird to return, to come tell her. Then she leaves the door open and We don't see Wesley drive off. I think something happened? I guess We don't know for sure I never read the book, so I was wondering if anyone who has might know something that I don't.

[–] Matador07 14 years ago

Three years later, but yes I assumed that was exactly the implication, and if it was, boy what a sliimy way to end a buddy cop movie, with one guy apparently about to go in to jump the other guy's girl??

Maybe I missed something, but it was yet another jarring note.

[–] Tdownes78 14 years ago

Haha well worth the wait. I had totally forgot I made this post. This ending confused me but I like it just because its different. I think its up to the viewer to decide whether or not he actually does the dirty deed. Thanks for replying. Also sorry about using the actors names instead of the characters name in my post. Not sure why I did that, most likely alcohol.

[–] GreyHunter 14 years ago

Frankly, I got the sense that the two had an "open" relationship and Connor really didn't care if his wife (was she actually his wife at that point?) indulged in outside sexual affairs. He trusted that she would always return to him in the end, as per the quote.

[–] Tdownes78 14 years ago

That makes sense.Thanks for the response. I love how my posts on IMDB are not answered for a few years and I forget about them. Its a pleasant surprise :)

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[–] anannya_sen 12 years ago

The other thing is at the end of the film when Wesley is thinking about going up there, they play Connery's voice over the end scene saying the word Kohai very sternly almost as if Connery has some astral plane powers and is telling Wesley that he shouldn't do it. Of course, it's Tia Carrere so he absolutely should.

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[–] Tdownes78 12 years ago

Nice call I remember that now anannya sen!

[–] johnhall25 10 years ago

there's also the implication that Connery would be murdered at the golf course because the blackmailing of the senator was the big bosses idea. So, instead of going to rescue his new buddy, who he says he owes a favour, Snipes shags Connery's girlfriend. Its a very sour ending to a really enjoyable film.

[–] ionian 10 years ago

I've watched this film a ton of times and I've never picked up on that implication.

Are you saying that the Japanese were going to take revenge on him or something for the whole mess? I'm not sure what I missed in the film, but what explicitly gave you that impression?

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Frank

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[–] johnhall25 10 years ago

Hi, sorry for the delayed reply, I'll have to re-watch a couple of scenes to give you specific quotes from the film and I haven't done so yet, but basically it is about upholding the 'honour' of the Japanese businessman. He knows that John Connor (Sean Connery) knows that the murder plot was masterminded and not the act of the fall guy. So, how can they let this knowledge remain with an outsider? The only way John Connor can save his skin is to be on the same respect level as the The Japanese boss, and thus to be within a trusted inner circle, so by this logic bribery would not cut it, they'd sooner kill him. The only thing that can save Connor would be the absolute trust of the Japanese boss and considering that Connor has been the one investigating them and revealing their hypocrisy, I think their absolute trust is a long shot (or possibly only something the charm of Sean Connery could achieve ;) ). I think that killing him is a much neater solution for them, at once plugging a possible information leak and in a twisted way absolving their consciences.

So I suppose there is a parallel with Connor's girlfriend, it is about trust. Does she trust him not to be with other women? probably not, so why shouldn't she be with other men, fair enough. But for Webster Smith, the breaking of trust and honour with his partner is a matter of life and death. So for me, Smith's betrayal of Connor and severance of their partnership is symbolic of the impossibility of mutual trust between Connor and the Japanese businessman and directly related to Connor's fate.

The disembodied voice of Connor sums up this interpretation. Connor is dead and now he sees over everything, and it's no surprise to him to see the flaunting of trusts that exist only in an idealist view. As the plot of the film has shown, even the Japanese, who hold trust and honour so highly in their society can be hypocritical, so why would anyone else be any different?

Quite a cynical message for what was shaping up as a typical hollywood 'good guy wins' movie. On reflection I like it even if it is a bit of an add-on.

[–] miles-bennett-dyson 10 years ago

John Connor (Sean Connery) knows that the murder plot was masterminded and not the act of the fall guy

When was this stated? I did not get that impression at all.

[–] cmtmj2006 9 years ago

I always thought Connor was playing the middle and knew far more than he was telling Webb. Connor sole job was to find the killer which he did. Richmond easily would do anything for the deal to go through and the Japanese knew that. He was an easy fall guy. His greed would set him up to used by he Japanese. Connor was called in to deflate the situation and make it seem it was the act of one person, not a huge conspiracy. I'm sure Connor has seen these things come and go. He is a valuable asset to the Japanese. To kill Connor the fix it man would have been pointless. After all he favored the Japanese over his American employers.

[–] Captain_Wesker 9 years ago

Whoa!

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