A few things...


1. Robert Sean Leonard: WTF! Unbelievable that his extreme over-acting was allowed. Come on, Branagh, reign that it. And let's do something about those gnarly eyebrows while we're at it.

2. Hero was certainly forgiving after Mr. Scarybrows freaking THREW her across the aisle and freaked out and after her father physically assaulted her. Regardless what they saw that was a bit much. Guess his nuts will be in her purse the rest of their lives. I never got the impression that this scene was all that violent in the play but they sure went to town in this movie.

3. Margaret is supposedly an innocent pawn but she must be guilty of extreme stupidity--the dude is porking her out in the open and calling her "Hero" over and over and she doesn't find this weird? And if she finds it weird but doesn't think it's suspicious then why isn't she insulted? And given that she knows what really happened from the moment this all starts at the wedding then her skanky a$$ should have fessed up.

4. Emma Thompson is so cute and funny. My favorite is when Benedick sees her coming to bid him come in to dinner right after he hears she loves him and he says how fair she is as she is fuming and storming out to find him. Hilarious.



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1. Agreed, though he did help me dislike Claudio even more.

2. I think many people think that way, and they should. Leonato could also be thought to be too generous after the humiliation and pain Claudio and Don Pedro's foolishness caused him. But Hero is a passive character from beginning to end, except maybe gaining some will to stand up for herself at the end when she announces she is a maid. When I read the plot before reading the play, I was hoping she would honor her name, but I guess that was the joke.

3. She could speak up when Hero was accused but didn't. Maybe she was afraid but it still doesn't make much sense since she is still welcomed after everything is clear.

And Emma Thompson was amazing, as usual. Well worth seeing the movie just for her acting. She, Branagh and Keaton made it really enjoyable for me.

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It's a movie.

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It's a movie? Get out! So there aren't any surviving documentaries from the Elizabethan era?

1. Anyway, yeah, Robert Sean Leonard and some of the other Americans with inconsistent accents annoyed me. I really didn't like Leonard's Claudio but I think KB can be blamed for a lot of that, as well. Where was his emotion and passion when he thinks Hero's dead. He just quios at her father like she meant nothing. Alas, I think Keanu Reeves mars the film more so just because he only has that one Blue Steel look.

2. Agreed about the violence and Hero's willingness to forgive. It even goes beyond forgiveness though, as she takes no umbrage with the accusation and treatment at all.

3. Lots of this play make no sense. Even Lewis Carroll made the point about Margaret providing Hero an alibi. Also, where was Hero sleeping? Didn't her servants and Beatrice know, couldn't they have said. Very ropey. The play and this adaptation all have a very inebriated feel. Was everyone in Italy drunk back then or what? And I don't think Margaret was afraid, it just doesn't fit the character. Also, Don Pedro and Claudio come off like incredulous idiots in this--more so than my reading of the play.

4. I liked ET and KB except in a few places it was clotingly sweet. Mary and Marty Sue fall in love.

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A long time ago, in 1985, when I was a senior acting major at Penn State, I was cast as one of Dogberry's Men of the Watch. That summer our director, who was also the artistic director for the Camden Shakespeare Company in Camden, Maine, took several members of the cast -- me included -- with him to Maine and recreated the production. Since then Much Ado About Nothing has been one of my favourite Shakespeare plays.

1. For the most part, Robert Sean Leonard did not bother me. He came across as a young officer, somewhat immature and trying to imitate his mentor, Don Pedro. What got me, however, as it did others, his reaction after he learns that Hero is "dead." At first the character is righteous -- she betrayed him and to die of shame was just. But when the truth comes out that Hero was innocent and that Claudio's unjust denunciation sent her to her grave, where was Claudio's guilt and grief? In our productions, when Claudio read his epitaph at Hero's tomb, the actor really broke down sobbing, tortured by what he had done. And Hero watched his suffering in the shadows behind the tomb.

2. Although our production did not have the physical violence that this version had, that violence did not bother me. Our version was violent, too, but the actors put that violence into their delivery of the lines. The anger, the hurt, the confusion was all very powerful. Our director even took Leonato's line, "Has no man's dagger here a point for me?" and gave it to Hero. She cried out this line right before she fainted. It worked. That said, although I love this play, I, too, find Hero's willingness to forgive hard to rationalize. I mean, if Claudio would think so little of Hero as to suspect she was guilty once, would he do it again? And why did he trust her so little in the first place? The latter we can chalk off to immaturity. The former, well, I don't think any version I've seen has really shown, at least to my satisfaction, that Claudio is humbled by his over-reaction and that he realizes that he is unworthy of Hero.

3. It's a play and a comedy, so we have to have a willing suspension of disbelief. (I should probably have that for my problems in #2.) Junior officer Borachio is boinking Lady Margaret. He asks her to play along when he calls her "Hero." It's all part of the love-making game. But Don John uses it to fool his brother, Don Pedro, and Claudio. Granted, the servants could give Hero an alibi, but the servants, except for Lady Margaret and Lady Ursula, are not at the wedding. Ursula is as confused as everyone else, and when Beatrice tries to defend Hero, she is ignored. Considering the anger and violence, of course Margaret is afraid to say anything. She could be blamed for being a part of it all. Even more so after it is spread around that Hero died of her shame. She could be guilty of Hero's death. Yes, she is welcomed back, but that is only after Dogberry, Verges, and the Watch have proved that Hero was innocent -- and that Margaret was an unknowing pawn.

4. I agree with everything that everyone has said about ET and KB.

Sorry for such a long, rambling post. I guess it's the Irish in me.

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I'm sorry, but I watched the movie again and found answers to two comments:

1. Why didn't the Beatrice and the servants provide an alibi for Hero? Beatrice states that she had slept in the same room as Hero -- until that night. We never learn why Hero wanted to sleep alone. It doesn't help her case, but it bolsters Don John's.

2. Leonato is ready to punish Lady Margaret for her part in the plot, but Borachio pleads that Margaret be spared, that she did not know what he had dragged her into without her knowing. And so Shakespeare has the family welcoming her back into the fold as she was innocent of the plotting.

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It's a movie? Get out! So there aren't any surviving documentaries from the Elizabethan era?

1. Anyway, yeah, Robert Sean Leonard and some of the other Americans with inconsistent accents annoyed me. I really didn't like Leonard's Claudio but I think KB can be blamed for a lot of that, as well. Where was his emotion and passion when he thinks Hero's dead. He just quios at her father like she meant nothing. Alas, I think Keanu Reeves mars the film more so just because he only has that one Blue Steel look.

2. Agreed about the violence and Hero's willingness to forgive. It even goes beyond forgiveness though, as she takes no umbrage with the accusation and treatment at all.

3. Lots of this play make no sense. Even Lewis Carroll made the point about Margaret providing Hero an alibi. Also, where was Hero sleeping? Didn't her servants and Beatrice know, couldn't they have said. Very ropey. The play and this adaptation all have a very inebriated feel. Was everyone in Italy drunk back then or what? And I don't think Margaret was afraid, it just doesn't fit the character. Also, Don Pedro and Claudio come off like incredulous idiots in this--more so than my reading of the play.

4. I liked ET and KB except in a few places it was clotingly sweet. Mary and Marty Sue fall in love.

Elizabethan Docs are very rare, since inscribing magic-eye imagery on stone, and doing it thousands of times over and over again to create a series of stone tablets to give a cinematic feel, was very rare.

Seriously; it's "cloyingly", and the time frame of the play is approximately 48 hours. Hero was probably sleeping with the servants. All the visitors were male soldiers, so she could have been easily hid in "The Foundation".

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Ha! I forgot I ever posted this--I must have been in a mood. :P I was stage managing MAAN when I posted this. In reading the post it sounds like I don't like the movie or that I cannot accept that it is just a movie. On the contrary, I do like it and I do accept that it is a movie, but that doesn't mean that I cannot be bothered by certain things or have criticisms.

Love the responses here, by the way. Many good points made! Thank you to everyone for the replies. :)


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