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I Asked This Question In GONE WITH THE WIND


Civil wars leave scars that take longer to heal than international wars. Even though all the leadership of the Mexican Revolution of 1911 and of the Spanish War of 1936-39 is long dead, you can still find Mexicans and Spaniards who continue to fight those wars in spirit.
So I ask: when do civil wars REALLY END? When do countries finally accept a past civil war as something of interest mainly to historians? Here in the State of Florida, where I have lived since 1980, I have never met a single individual still fighting the War of 1861-65. Is that common in the present day USA, or is Florida a special case because it has so many of my fellow Latin Americans for whom the War Between the States has no particular relevance?

God is subtle, but He is not malicious. (Albert Einstein)

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Florida consists of two different regions. The most northern part and the pan handle and the rest of Florida which is mainly immigrants from other countries and states.
I lived with a Floridian from the Pan Handle and he was a southerner in every way. For his family, Northerners were still Union Soldiers and Carpet Baggers.

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REALLY???!!! Talk about taking up permanent residence in the past!
God is subtle, but He is not malicious. (Albert Einstein)

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I never knew anyone still fighting the Civil War in the North (other than on websites and trolling) but in the '70s I lived in Central Georgia just to the south of Sherman's March. In school I spent a week in Milledgeville (state capitol during the war) and believe me, those people still hated Sherman and Yankees with a passion and were still fighting the war. Many of the older people still had memories passed on by their grandparents who actually experienced the war, so I guess that's understandable. To us "boomer" kids WW2 is more of a living thing than to our grandkids.



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Florida did not see any major battles that I know of during the war - cetrainly nothing on the scale of Sharpsburg, Gettysburg, or Sherman's march to the sea. The war completely devistated the south because the vast majority of battles were fought there. The south lost more men per capita. It was a knock-down, drag-out, no-holed barred ass kicking for the south that took decades for it to recover from. And it didn't just end in 1865 - the Reconstruction period following was not without violence. So, in the heart of Dixie - Louisiana, Arkansas, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina - it is much more remembered.

As far as when does one stop fighting the last civil war? Probably not until the next one starts.

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I'm originally from the Philippines, and two of my great-grandfathers-- my mother's grandfathers-- fought on opposite sides of the Philippine Insurrection (which revisionist historians try to rename "The Philippine-American War"), my grandfather's father fighting as a member of the US Army's Philippine Scouts and my grandmother's father fighting as a member of Emilio Aguinaldo's insurrectionists.

As a quick and dirty history lesson, Aguinaldo was initially an insurrectionist leader against the Spanish Colonial government in the Philippines until his rebels were defeated, imprisoned on Guam and then exiled to Hong Kong. After Commodore Dewey defeated the Spanish fleet at Manila Bay and American troops came ashore in 1898, Filipinos were recruited into the US Army in an organization named the Philippine Scouts, to join them in fighting the Spaniards. After the Spaniards ceded the Philippines, Cuba, Guam and Puerto Rico to the US, the US military government brought Aguinaldo back from exile and installed him as provisional president, whereupon he and his followers almost immediately started an armed rebellion against the very same US forces that put him in power. The insurrection lasted two years and ended when Philippine Scouts and members of Filipino guerrilla units who opposed Aguinaldo infiltrated his headquarters and captured him. Aguinaldo then swore allegiance to the US, but continued to lobby for immediate Philippine independence.

My US Army veteran great-grandfather is evidence that, the revisionsists attempts at renaming it notwithstanding, the supposed "Philippine-American War" was hardly a war between all Filipinos and the occupying American forces only. It was the closest thing the Philippines ever had to a Civil War, the second-closest being the 1987 "People Power" revolt led by Corazon Aquino that unseated the Ferdinand Marcos dictatorship. Which brings us back to the OP's question. My two great-grandfathers who fought on opposite sides were from the same town in Nueva Vizcaya province in Northern Luzon and were friends before the Philippine Insurrection. They immediately resumed their friendship after the insurrection was defeated, and their children, my grandparents, married, circa 1910. I've always found it amusing that when my grandparents married, the fighting between the Philippine Scouts and the insurrectionists had been long forgotten in less than a decade while Americans were still refighting a war that had ended 45 years earlier.

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