I'm really confused about how we are meant to perceive charles. I mean..at the beginning of the movie he's cutting Tania's initial into his arm and encircled his year book with a pic of her with a love heart....acting like he loves her...then goes all phsycho at the graveyard...but he really does seem to get off on being a 'bad ass'...uh huh??? any clarification?
shareI think he really liked Tanya. In the graveyard he makes some comment about not wanting to hurt her or something, I'll have to watch for the specific line. But I think after "the change" started happening there was no turning back. Or at least that's what I take away from the movie.
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Well I always thought that he did like Tanya from afar and was interested in more than just feeding on her lifeforce. I think for the most part he was actually attracted to her innocence and the fact she was a good person. To me, he saw something unique about Tanya that just made her different from everyone else. The thing was, due to the fact he was a Sleepwalker he realized that his options were very limited as to the life they could have together so his attraction in light of his situation manifested in obsessive behavior like cutting her initial into his arm and drawing a heart around the yearbook photo. Then at the graveyard, for a moment I think he considered not attempting to do the deed and possibly living a double life when he said, "I don't want to hurt you." But I think the moment that Tanya actually consented to taking it further than just kissing something in his mind clicked and he went from seeing her as a paragon of virtue that he was attracted to just another virgin whose lifeforce he needed to feed on. Perhaps if she would have been hesitant to consent, events might have gone down differently and that response might not have been triggered.
shareI think he was in love with her and when she consented to moving to second or third base with him it all changed and the animalistic side of him or his natural person of who he was kicked in and became that monster trying to take her life force from her.
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If this guy didn't want to hurt Tanya, why didn't he just find another virgin and keep tanya to himself? :/
shareYou make a great point about that eva-144. He should have persued another virgin to kill off so he could keep Tanya for himself.
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The thing was the immediate need for food on his mother's part. She was literally starving and from their conversation, Charles had invested a lot of time into getting to know her and figuring out whether or not she was a virgin. At that point I don't think that getting another virgin was an option due to the time/starvation factor.
shareYou are correct about that because if not the mother would have died without eating or taking the soul of a virgin I believe it is. It has been ages since I have seen this movie. USA Network use to show it a lot before NBC changed everything! What I mean is by their programming.
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What about the kids in the beginning of the movie that he almost ran over in the car chase scene? Just go to an elementary school and there they are! Plenty of virgins! lol
Okay I don't like seeing children die in movies but that's just something he could have done, unless the virgins had to be a certain age or something like that.
I think that because she could see the loneliness in his story he felt a connection to her more then her being food. I think the urge for feeding took over. My question is why didn't the mother have him take her life force when they had her alone in their house? If she was starving after all. They was planning on leaving as soon as they were done feeding.
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One reason I think the mother didn't make him take Tanya's lifeforce when htye had her alone in the house is because at the time she was aware that Charles had some sort of feelings for her and she was unsure that at that time he would go through with it. Next time you watch the film take note of the looks she throws Charles during the scene because they are very telling.
shareSo the mother is going to starve because her son who she has sex with has a crush on their meal? She even states they can't find another one.
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Initially Tanya was just a meal but when Charles caught feelings for her it became equal parts survival and loyalty to them. When she looked at Charles in that scene she knew that there was an odd hesitation in him and was unsure how deep the crush went. Also remember that it seems that for the Sleepwalkers feeding (or as you called it "sex") is a binary act and it does not appear that the mother could feed independantly of Charles. If Charles did not do his part then she could not independantly feed. Whether or not Charles would have in fact let her starve really depended on the depth of his crush and as we saw in the graveyard the second that she ceased to be the ideal female he had in his mind she was just food to him.
shareShe was slapping him because he was taking so long. I don't see her willing to wait longer because he has a crush.
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Well she wasn't willing to wait. At that point the issue was becoming more than just hunger it had become an issue of loyalty as well as jealousy. Her slapping him did involve hunger on a base level but more than that it involved several other things.
shareThis is why I don't see why she wouldn't have him take her then.
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She wouldn't have him take her then because she knew that if she forced the issue there is a possibility that it would drive a wedge between them permanently. That was something she could not afford because she could not feed without him.
shareI would think the slapping him around would cause that more then getting him to feed her quicker.
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Not really, because at that point in the film Charles was actually a bit torn in that he had loyalty to Mary and at the same time actually found himself feeling something for Tayna and knowing that he could never have a relationship with her. It was even to the point that Charles was going to actually tell Tayna who he was in the graveyard before circumstances changed.
Charles saw Mary's the slap for what it was: despiration. And if Tayna would have reacted differently to his advances who knows what could have happened.
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It's weird, they play up his inner conflict at having to sacrifice the girl he is obsessed with so that his mother can live, but as soon as he decides to kill her he suddenly becomes utterly sadistic - beating her about the head while making jokes and mocking her escape attempts. Literally, as soon as his face turns into the happy cat-muppet demon his internal anguish, which the film had spent much time setting up, is tossed out the window in favour of him becoming a full-on soul-sucking monster who loves killing. The film is amusingly terrible.