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Dillon's block in the St Luke's game - illegal?


Was the block that Dillon had in the St Luke's game legal in the rule book? If one looks at a replay, one sees that David Greene first directs him and then pushes him forward to accomplish the block.

I've been searching the rule books on this issue. Another player cannot push forward a runner who has the ball in order to advance that runner's forward progress. Players on a defensive line also aren't allowed to leverage each other, they can't help other players climb into any kind of pyramid to try to block a kick.

In all of my years of watching football, I've never seen an instance of what quarterback David Greene did, directing Charlie Dillon towards which player to block and then pushing him forward.

Was that a legal block or should the refs have called a penalty on that one?

MGD

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Perhaps rules were different in the 1950's?

Along those same lines, players are not supposed to push the ballcarrier either, but in nearly 30 years of watching football, I've seen that only penalized 1 time, and it was in a high-school game.

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Refrigerator Perry was once called for pushing a Chicago Bears running back forward and immediately replied that he didn't even know that was against the rules. Coming from such a stupid guy as him that doesn't surprise me but this play in the St. Luke's game featured the opposite scenario, a ball carrier's pushing forward a blocker. I'm looking for a real-life football referee to get me some guidance on this issue, I don't think it's legal. Something else that I noticed was how that play was highlighted, given in slow motion, perhaps leaving us viewers to ponder if it had something wrong with it.

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Something else that I noticed was how that play was highlighted, given in slow motion, perhaps leaving us viewers to ponder if it had something wrong with it.


If that were the case, that point would have brought up in the dialog later.

It was highlighted because it was the play that won the game and gave the school the victory over their rival school.

The fact that Greene has to grab Dillon's jersey to get him to block the other guy emphasizes the difference in their abilities at football. That may have been missed if it were not in slow motion.


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That difference in their abilities would certainly be highlighted, by slowing down what happened in the play, and would also, perhaps, question why Gray Dillon Sr., as well as the guys in the shower were saying that Dillon had played a great game. That was a questionable point in the film for me unless it were all meant to be a lot of feel good talk to Dillon, done to make him feel that he'd done better than just fumbling the ball and almost missing a key block.

I still, however, need to find out if that quarterback to blocker contact were valid in the football rules of that day.

MGD

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Oddly enough, I DID meet up with a football referee the other week! While in the NYC subway system I noticed that the guy standing next to me was in such a referee's costume and I thus asked him about the rule in question. He indeed told me that it was LEGAL, within the rules. A ball carrier is permitted to direct his blockers and push them forward like "a missile," as he described it.

Now why is that an exception to the other scenarios, which require the player's doing his own work?

MGD

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Cool; thanks for posting the "answer".




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Cobra,

you must have misread things. I said just that. The quarterback, who was the runner and had the ball, pushed his blocker.

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Cobra are you drunk or on drugs or something of the like?

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Cobra YOU are the only one here who claims not to have understood the post as I wrote it. If you'll get off the drugs that you're on then you'll comprehend things better. Now stop looking to pick fights.

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Cobra now on ignore. Any help in finding out if this poster is on drugs or something of the sort will be appreciated.

MGD

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