I was watching it on youtube last night and apparently in the DVD version the song 'When Love is Gone' was cut.
It has Belle saying "You did once." and then jumps to Rizzo crying.
WTBH? This was one of the best bits! I was going to get the DVD but now I'm not.
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This song is cut on one of the editions of the DVD (20th anniversary, maybe?), the DVD I have does include this song. It was cut out on others for time issues and some people thought it was "too heavy" for the movie.
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hey there, you may already know but I just bought the 50th anniversary edition and the song is included on the dvd!
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this is some bullcrap! i have been watching this movie since it came out. my vhs version, that i watched the crap out of, had the "when love is gone" song and i loved that song! this christmas i wanted to show this amazing movie to my younger cousins, so i rented the dvd and the song is gone! i was so mad. my favorite part of the movie was ruined!
was the song in the original theatrical version?
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Yes, I remember the song being in the theatrical release. And yes, it is on my DVD version, though my DVD is not any kind of Anniversary Edition.
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It was on my original video but not the DVD I have. Can't honestly say I've missed it - it's dreadful (apologies to the rest of the world that likes it). Would like to know why it was cut though.
shareWell, for anyone that wants to make sure they can see it then definitely get the anniversary edition. My family and I watched it last night and as was stated in an earlier post you can watch two versions, one of which isn't missing anything. Plus it has bloopers, which unfortunately was very short but still hilarious!
shareI agree. My wife and I LOVE this movie and watch it every holiday season, BUT we could never stomach that tune. We both feel that it never really fit the story that the muppet version was telling, musically at least. It does go on for quite a while and is the only part of the film that drags IMO.
Doesn't mean the song is horrible, though. We just didn't care for it, especially in comparison to every other song in the film (which we love)!
Marley and Marley .... whhooooooooo!!!
It's nice to know I'm not the only one who can't stand this song. When I watch this movie with my dad every year, I have to leave the room when this song is on... drives me nuts.
shareI just watched it with the family, what a stunningly brilliant film this is. I swear this is one of Michael Caine's best screen performances! Script, music and direction all stunning.
Anyway, we watched the US 50th Anniversary DVD edition (widescreen). I'm sure that the original UK release was originally shorter by two other scenes, on top of anything with Belle in it. The first is Tiny Tim's song, and the other was the scene with Ghost of Christmas future with that spidery thing, directly after Scrooge listens to the pigs talking about his funeral. Maybe my memory is terrible, but I saw the UK version so many times and I don't remember either of these! (tellingly, these were both the moments that my kids wriggled through, I think they were both good cuts).
My DVD isn't missing anything, but the strange thing with other Muppets DVDs are missing things. A Muppets Family Christmas is missing a couple songs, and without those songs some of the jokes that were left in go without setups. On Emmett Otter's Jug Band Christmas, they leave out a song or two, and the part where Mrs. Otter tells her customer she can "fall off the dock." What's up with that?
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Yeah, I was really upset to find it gone in the DVD version. And it was strange because I never REALLY liked the song very much when I was young, but the jump the cut made seemed unrealistic.
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I loved this song. I can't understand why they cut it from the DVD. That's very disappointing.
Now I look back on it, the song DOES drag a little. But it still has the most tender moment with the duet with older Scrooge and Belle. Michael Caine really does do a good job in this scene, as it looks as if Scrooge still loves Belle after all this time.
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Even in the novel I'm sure Scrooge still loved Belle and he would have done anything to have changed that moment and stopped her from walking away. It's an important scene and dragging or not it should not have been cut. It's a beautiful song.
So does anybody know why it was cut....?
I bought the DVD version to watch with my daughter, we watched it when she was a child....very obvious cut...esp when the final song is ''a love found' or similiar...
Spoilt my Christmas eve...
Atama hagetemo uwaki wa yamanu.!
Apparently "When Love is Gone" was missing from the original theatrical cut as well. And if it didn't mark the first time Muppet Christmas Carol and Muppet Treasure Island were available in widescreen, I would say the DVD collection this came from was BS as a whole. Compared to the original Muppet movie DVDs, they dropped 20 minute documentaries on Christmas Carol and Treasure Island, test footage for The Muppet Movie, and a branching commentary for Treasure Island. The only new bonus features were fictional Muppet biographies hosted by the out-of-place Pepe the King Prawn. Hopefully they'll make better Muppet movie DVDs (including "When Love is Gone" in widescreen!) when the next Muppet movie comes out.
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Do any of the UK versions have the song in? The version I have also misses out the scene with Christmas present and the victims of poverty and sickness dying inside his coat. I really want to see the song, it was one of my favourites.
shareMy sister got the 50th Anniversary edition for Christmas and we watched the the widescreen edition. We both could have swore When Love is Gone was in the Theatrical edition. I remember seeing this in theaters when I was younger and I was pretty sure the song was in there! Anybody else remember it in the Theatrical version or am I making this up?
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Hey Flowers_The_skunk, i'm pretty sure the scene your thinking of is in the film Scrooged, staring Bill Murry
But yeah, sucks they cut the song out, but it was a bit dull for kids.
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It's a part from the original novel that I'm pretty sure didn't make it into the Muppets version. It's two children, ignorance and want. It would've seems out of character for the Christmas Present character in Muppets.
shareI was just watching that scene online as well, and I am mad it was cut! I was going to buy it on Amazon, but I wont buy the version that doesnt have it.
This movie came out when I was 17, and this was my favorite song of them whole film! I also teared up when Scrooge comes and stands behind her and starts crying. It is one of the biggest moments, that he realizes where his life was heading, that brought him to where he is. When we got it on VHS, I played this song over and over.
Disney people are STUPID!
It was definitely in the original VHS release. I have the (original?) US full-screen DVD version and I'm pretty sure it's in that, but it isn't in the UK widescreen restored and remastered one. (How can it be called restored if it's had stuff removed?!)
It makes the "When Love Is Found" reprise at the end of the movie a little irrelevant, because its a response to something we haven't seen.
The song has always been cut when shown on UK TV, I always assumed for time reasons (why show a whole film when you can put on a few more trailers/sponsors/adverts!), or maybe because there are no Muppets in the scene and is perhaps considered a little out of place in a MUPPET film.
If you get the Anniversary Edition (50 Years of Being Green) and watch it on full screen (extended version rather than widescreen theatrical version) then it does indeed have the song. Also some of the special features are hilarious, definitely worth getting if you can find the Anniversary Edition.
shareWow, whose bright idea was that?
I hadn't watched this film since the 90s on VHS, I rented it for Christmas this year and thought I must have been forgetting something when Belle didn't sing. When we were suddenly jumping to the ghost of Christmas I was like "HEY! Wait a second?!"
Had to YouTube the scene just to put it in its proper place and be able to continue with the movie.
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