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That wasn't the real Pinhead in this

posted 12 years ago by MisterBabadook
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If you want the true Pinhead go and watch the 1st and 2nd films. They tried too hard to make him like someone like Freddy Krueger in this one. In the first 2 films he was a very calm and menacing figure who would even make deals with Kirsty and let her go. In this he just went around on a killing spree for no reason killing anyone he came across and laughing like Freddy after every kill.

Wasn't it he only killed those who opened the box looking for pain and pleasure? I mean he let Tiffany go in Hellbound after she opened the box because she wasn't the one who desired it. In this film he's nothing more than a Freddy/Jason figure jut killing anyone, his mystique and presence is completely gone in this film.

Also his voice was too regular in this, it didn't have that godly demonic tone it had in the previous films.

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[–] HellboundHero 12 years ago

The difference was explained though. What made Pinhead so restrained and ordered in the first two movies was Elliot. Here, it's Elliot's evil made flesh. It's actually not dissimilar to the old school trope where a character is split into two people who each represent a side of their personality. Think Star Trek's "The Enemy Within" and how Kirk's aggressive, passionate half acted. The way I look at it is Elliot is the human spirit untainted by flesh, while Pinhead is the sum of his human desire, which left unchecked is destructive.

[–] DeathOnHoliday 12 years ago

This movie dumbed the series down. It's unfortunate because it would have been nice to have a good trilogy rather than two good movies followed by a bunch of crap.

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[–] jorgito2001 10 years ago

I agree with the OP in that the villains were usually the HUMANS, not Pinhead himself (which was more of an evil moderator...lol). Here he was full on "Freddy'd" out...

At least they tried to explain that with the split of Pinhead's humanity.

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[–] FilmKoala 10 years ago

The "true" Pinhead is in every film in this series, get over it.

[–] Forgotten_Hero 10 years ago

In some respects, Pinhead lost some of that calm and eerie aura about him. His speech wasn't quite as refined and they didn't have that white glow effect. He would have never said "stinking" as an adjective in the first two films.

On the other hand, I feel like the film gave Pinhead back his strength. The second film essentially presented us with a watered down, morally conflicted Pinhead who lost a fight to a doctor-turned-cenobite. That left such a bad taste in my mouth that it took me two years to get around to watching the third film.

Overall, the first film is still the best, but I like this one a lot better than the second film.

[–] BHt88 9 years ago

yup it wasn't "pinhead" they killed the character (as freddy Krueger in NOES 2)
THIS is not pinhead

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[–] NoseofNicko 8 years ago

Agreed.

CG gore is the worst thing that has ever happened to the horror genre.

[–] BloodyPredator2 8 years ago

I like Pinhead in this one,he was very aggressive and cynical.
But I like his presence in the first two movies more.

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