MovieChat Forums > Candyman (1992) Discussion > The Candyman's dialogue felt poorly writ...

The Candyman's dialogue felt poorly written


It felt poorly written and kind of all over the place. Hard to figure out what he was getting at. His dialogue kind of sounded all over the place, like the writers didn't really know what it was he was after. Anyone else agree?

reply

Explain..

reply

I agree.

reply

I agree, actually. His motives seemed all over the place.
The teacher says we should feel bad for Candyman. Yet he's the bad guy.

Was he there because Helen was a skeptic or was he just in lust because she reminded him of his old flame?


I'd say this cloud is Cumulo Nimbus.
Didn't he discover America?
Penfold, shush.

reply

The teacher says we should feel bad for Candyman. Yet he's the bad guy.

We should feel sorry for him because of his tragic origin. He's the bad guy because he became a wrath driven ghost..

Was he there because Helen was a skeptic or was he just in lust because she reminded him of his old flame?

-Yes, Helen was skeptic about him. She's "proven" that Candyman is just a folklore and she pays the price when he shows up. He wants to keep the stories and rumors going because he's nothing without them.

-At the same time he did have some sort of affectionate feeling for Helen, he wanted this beautiful woman to join him in his legacy of inflicting fear..

reply

Its always fun to *psychoanalyze* a fictional villain. 
So here goes:

Well, I feel bad that he was tormented. But I don't feel sorry for Candyman himself. No way. For starters, both he & his *white girlfriend* should have known better than to get involved in such a controversial & DEADLY time of racial relations!
And HELLO, why didn't you guys use some birth control?!!

Second, Candyman did not need to become a slayer of innocent people. He chose to.
And torture innocent people he sure did.
No sympathy for that guy.




I'd say this cloud is Cumulo Nimbus.
Didn't he discover America?
Penfold, shush.

reply

Its always fun to *psychoanalyze* a fictional villain.

I'll play along.

For starters, both he & his *white girlfriend* should have known better than to get involved in such a controversial & DEADLY time of racial relations!
And HELLO, why didn't you guys use some birth control?!!


Yes, there was lots of ignorance at that time but that doesnt stop anyone from loving one another, does it?

Second, Candyman did not need to become a slayer of innocent people. He chose to.
And torture innocent people he sure did.
No sympathy for that guy.


You can sympathize Candyman do to his tragic origin but that doesn’t necessarily mean you want him to win. Candyman's goal is to keep his existence alive and if anyone tries to wipe it out he'll kill them. Killing people is his way of reviving his legend and resuscitate belief in him.

reply

Its one thing to love someone 'forbidden' its another to act stupidly.
They should never have had sex, to be frank. Surely they knew how 'literally' dangerous it was!

Second, Candyman did not kill JUST to keep his belief alive. He killed, as he mentions at the start of the film, because he likes to.


I'd say this cloud is Cumulo Nimbus.
Didn't he discover America?
Penfold, shush.

reply

Its one thing to love someone 'forbidden' its another to act stupidly.

This doesnt make sense..Loving someone forbidden doesnt justify to murder him.

Second, Candyman did not kill JUST to keep his belief alive. He killed, as he mentions at the start of the film, because he likes to.

Candyman is a wrath driven spectre.

I am the writing on the wall, the whisper in the classroom! Without these things, I am nothing. So now, I must shed innocent blood. COME WITH ME!

Its something he has to do in order to keep his stories and rumors alive, he doesnt have to like it.

reply

I never said it justified anything. But just because you feel something, does not mean you should act on it.

Candyman says at the beginning very clearly "They will say I have shed innocent blood. What's blood for, if not for shedding?"

That pretty much sums it up.
Plus, he may be wrath-driven, but he doesn't seem to care about who he inflicts pain ON.


I'd say this cloud is Cumulo Nimbus.
Didn't he discover America?
Penfold, shush.

reply

I never said it justified anything. But just because you feel something, does not mean you should act on it.

Come on, when two people fall in love logic doesnt cut in thats just how it is and you know that.

Candyman says at the beginning very clearly "They will say I have shed innocent blood. What's blood for, if not for shedding?"

I know he said that. Candyman kills to remind people that he exist it doesnt literally mean that he..likes it..Helen is the reason why he actually came back for her, as he said: You are not content with the stories, so I was obliged to come.

I am the writing on the wall, the whisper in the classroom! Without these things, I am nothing. So now, I must shed innocent blood. COME WITH ME!

Plus, he may be wrath-driven, he values his but he doesn't seem to care about who he inflicts pain ON.

He doesnt care because he's self-absorbed. He values his reputation over human life..

reply

And HELLO, why didn't you guys use some birth control?!!


And what birth control could they have used in the late 1800s? Condoms weren't commonplace and there were no birth control pills back then.

If this is a consular ship, where is the ambassador?

reply

"Was he there because Helen was a skeptic or was he just in lust because she reminded him of his old flame? "

Exactly

reply

Most of the Candyman's dialogue is straight from Clive Barker's short story. Just moved around to different scenes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z55W6ihUY-c
Moderators are terrorists.

reply

I regrettably haven't read the Forbidden. Was Candyman framing Helen unique to the movie?

reply

Yes.

Candyman only actually appears for one scene near the end of the story.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z55W6ihUY-c
Moderators are terrorists.

reply

Sometimes his dialogue felt Shakespearean.

reply