Why did Mina still love him after she found out he was responsible for Lucy's death? I don't know about you but if I knew this guy killed my best friend, I would probably kill him myself. I guess she was already in too deep to get out?
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Oh of course, SOMEONE was going to say something sexist. Why am I not surprised. Being "female" has nothing to do with it. What the heck does being female have to do with anything anyway? Men can make "dangerous and stupid" choices when they think they are in love with a woman too. HUMANS are complex. And for all we know, the OP could be female. But really it's more than that. I took that scene to mean two things, one, she was either under the complete spell of Dracula, and if she was in her right mind, she likely would have tried to stay away from him. Or two, she was truly in some way the reincarnation of Elisabeta which is what we are sort of made to believe. And even though he killed her best friend, she still did not want to be away from her "one true love".
She had to be in love with him. Nobody in their right mind would stay with him willingly and tell him they love him like she did. I know I wouldn't.
shareLoL, you both use the term "not in her right mind" when referring to her choice of love candidate and yet what I said is sexist? Eventually it is no longer sexist when the majority of women make similar choices, like staying with men that beat them or verbally abuse them, or have rape fantasies because their fathers didn't spank them enough or some other stupid crap. I mean seriously, it ain't an -ist or -ism if it is truth.
share"...majority of women make similar choices, like staying with men that beat them or verbally abuse them, or have rape fantasies because their fathers didn't spank them enough or some other stupid crap."
Yes, I can tell you have a deep, nuanced understanding of psychology. When did you get your degree, exactly? Plenty of women stay in abusive relationships but plenty of women DON'T. How you think it's "the majority" I honestly don't know. Yes, MOST women sleep with and love men who killed their best friends. You're a genius, my friend. Why we're trying to make sense of a vampire movie is beyond me anyway.
Not to mention rape fantasies aren't actually fantasies about literal rape as obviously the definition of rape is not wanting it. It's more of some stranger sex/rough sex fantasy, but then again, maybe you have weird reasons behind wanting to think women actually want rape, I don't know.
>>Plenty of women stay in abusive relationships but plenty of women DON'T.
I was going to post the exact same thing lol. I believe the poster must be a feminist; they always try to portray women as 'victims' lol
>>I know I wouldn't.
You'd if your lover happens to be the handsome Gary Oldman.
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When you have a badly conceived, ridiculous romance onto another work of fiction, you have to expect the characters will make ridiculous decisions.
sharebecause you can't turn your feelings off and on like a light switch.
She's already fallen hard for him, part of his powers of being a vampire is magnetism and thrall...He has this intense sexual edge, so he's not your average male, and she's not your average female...She lives in a very repressed society and this character has affected her like no other.
He's on top of her and she's ready to have sex with him in the beginning of the scene, She's totally turned on and she 's married too to Johnathon, but common sense doesn't apply here, It's clear Dracula/Vlad is like no other.
Also, she's the reincarnation of his wife...the Dracula/Mina plot is soul-mates, so it's not your normal love story..there are incredibly strong feelings involved.
"I've crossed oceans of time to find you"
and he's directing that obsession and love at her...so she makes it clear in the bed scene...She begins beating him "You killed Lucy" but breaks from it in helpless resignation.
"Oh god i love you..I do i do"
She simply can't help loving the monster, and she wants to leave her life and become what he is which means all the earthly stuff won't matter anymore...And from a subtext POV it means Victorian ladies can throw off societies shackles and be free to explore the more exotic.
I just figured she was under his spell and Dracula made her think she was in love b/c after Mina put the sword through his chest, it was like the spell wore off, since he bit her, that's how I saw it.
Y'know, I could eat a peach for hours
I think it's because she fell for him and is clearly in love. Honestly, how many people, both men and women in fiction and real life, fall in love with a person who did horrible things and then forgive them for it? Mina is like that but a bit of an extreme version.
Welcome to my Nightmare- Freddy Krueger
It's as suggested earlier. She is the reincarnation of Elisbeta (however you spell it), thus it is safe to assume there is part of her soul that still remembers something of their past love. This compels her to love him, which is regrettably more powerful after Harker and Mina got married. This suggests to me that Dracula did manage to invoke that part of her that was still his beloved Elibeta, hearken back to their memories. Mina was torn between her loyalty to both as you can deduce, not a comfortable spot to be by all means. The movie is very soul driven I must, it's surreal in its composition. That is why I love it so much. The fate of the main characters is so woven in emotions that transcends time, it's no surprise that they are bound to make mistakes and stumble on the way.
By the way, men and women both have their strengths and weaknesses. No need to call any one gender inferior or condescend to it. Everyone is capable of making the same mistake regardless of their sex. And in my experience and observances women are more emotionally driven, thus their "likeliness" to make one mistake is different than that of men as they are creatures of logic (generally), though it is not always the case. So in my opinion it is not proper to go by gender stereotypes as everyone is without a doubt unique, who's to say men can't also make mistakes giving into their emotions? Or women can sometimes be illogical? Not to sound preachy but we should be appreciative of our differences between sexes. There is no question that each individual perceives things differently, that is why it's so beautiful when the two get together to look through a different scope entirely :)
She was under the spell of Count Dracula.
shareLove is blind, dear.
shareshe was under his hypnosis. she had no choice in the matter.
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Applied Science? All science is applied. Eventually.
It was more than just Love.
Dracula is a very tortured & sad soul & Mina came to understand this. I mean here you have a man who's raw undying Love & pure hatred made him survive the grave & after so long he finally finds his beloved. A spirit that can finally set him free... also Mina has this deep connection with him, she "knows" him as if some long lost memory from a distant past had emerged.
It's like Dracula, the man himself said..."The Luckiest man who walks this Earth, is the one who finds true Love"...
& this is a guy who is literally a Force of Nature, a King, a Conqueror, he's a creature, a monster- The most powerful Vampire, made by his own Hand... & he goes & says the most profound & utterly truthful thing like that.