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Led Zeppelin´s sample of Kashimir is gone from the dvd...


I remember seeing this one with a rap song full blast during the whole movie and the sample track was Led´s Zepp Kashimir and it added tremendous power to the descent into hell. Without it the downward spiral isn´t as compelling to me. I wonder, did they had permission? They prolly had to cough up a lot of $$ for Zepp.

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Jimmy Page will burn in hell for ruining this movie!

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Yeah, apparently they were FORCED to remove it by Jimmy Page, because Schooly D had sampled it without permission.

But the rap song was out since 1987 or so, and the movie came out in 1992, and Page didn't take legal action until 1994!!!

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hes not even that good at guitar i hate that *beep*

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Jimmy Page is turning out to be a typical British codger. Honestly, the guy should really be humble once in a while.

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That sux, this movie actually introduced me to zeppelin. Crazy as it sounds it was the first time I heard that riff. I came back here looking for information on this movie and I am highly disappointed now. Kashmir introduced me to the greatness that was led zeppelin.

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Ahhhh, that explains it. I saw this in the theater when it came out & that scene when Keitel walks into the hospital with Signifying Rapper blasting packed so much punch. Too bad, although the natural sound of the revised version has a certain kind of gritty realism to it as well.

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Well cut him some slack, he let Stacey Peralta use a whole bunch of Zeppelin tunes in Dogtown and Z-boys which totally makes that movie into a piece of art. (in adition to Pink Floyd, how they pulled that off I have no idea)

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I liked the movie, and Keitel's performance is superb.

That said, Jimmy Page was 100% right. It's his music, and if he doesn't want it in this or any other movie that is his business. BTW, Led Zeppelin almost never allows their music in any film, unless it's made by Cameron Crowe, who was a personal friend of the band.

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i noticed that too when i was watching the new dvd. i hadn't watched the movie since i saw in the early 00's on tape.


great movie. great keitel performance.

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That said, Jimmy Page was 100% right. It's his music,


The funniest part about that is that Led Zeppelin is NOTORIOUS for stealing songs from other artist and never giving any credit. In fact, they'd write down that they wrote the songs on the original albums(Until they were sued multiple times, in fact, artists were still discovering their songs being stolen in to the 80's and started suing them then after the band was over). their first two albums are almost entirely covers.

The girl who wrote 'Babe I'm going to leave you' learned her song was stolen from her son. he went to see her in concert and asked why she was covering Led Zeppelin. She didn't know what he was talking about since she had wrote that song almost 10 years before anyone ever heard of LZ. Even the song stairway to heaven was taken from a song by a band they use to tour with before they were famous.

If you don't believe me you can google it. there's even a website where you can play the original songs and the Zeppelin version for comparison.

* "Babe I'm Gonna Leave You" - A folk song by Anne Bredon, this was originally credited as "traditional, arranged by Jimmy Page," then "words and music by Jimmy Page," and then, following legal action, "Bredon/Page/Plant."
* "Black Mountain Side" - uncredited version of a traditional folk tune previously recorded by Bert Jansch.
* "Bring It On Home" - the first section is an uncredited cover of the Willie Dixon tune (as performed by the imposter Sonny Boy Williamson).
* "Communication Breakdown" - apparently derived from Eddie Cochran's "Nervous Breakdown."
* "Custard Pie" - uncredited cover of Bukka White's "Shake 'Em On Down," with lyrics from Sleepy John Estes's "Drop Down Daddy."
* "Dazed And Confused" - uncredited cover of the Jake Holmes song (see The Above Ground Sound Of Jake Holmes).
* "Hats Off To (Roy) Harper" - uncredited version of Bukka White's "Shake 'Em On Down."
* "How Many More Times" - Part one is an uncredited cover of the Howlin' Wolf song (available on numerous compilations). Part two is an uncredited cover of Albert King's "The Hunter."
* "In My Time Of Dying" - uncredited cover of the traditional song (as heard on Bob Dylan's debut).
* "The Lemon Song" - uncredited cover of Howlin' Wolf's "Killing Floor" - Wolf's publisher sued Zeppelin in the early 70s and settled out of court.
* "Moby Dick" - written and first recorded by Sleepy John Estes under the title "The Girl I Love," and later covered by Bobby Parker.
* "Nobody's Fault But Mine" - uncredited cover of the Blind Willie Johnson blues.
* "Since I've Been Lovin' You" - lyrics are the same as Moby Grape's "Never," though the music isn't similar.
* "Stairway To Heaven" - the main guitar line is apparently from "Taurus" by Spirit.
* "White Summer" - uncredited cover of Davey Graham's "She Moved Through The Fair."
* "Whole Lotta Love" - lyrics are from the Willie Dixon blues "You Need Love."

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Do someone know what Ferrara thinks about this and the re-edit of the movie?

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Yeah, he talked about it once during an interview:

"I'll strangle that *beep* Jimmy Page. As if every *beep* lick that guy ever played didn't come off a Robert Johnson album. "Signifying Rapper" was out for five years, and there wasn't a problem. Then the film had already been out for two years and they start bitching about it. And these pricks, when their attorneys are on the job, our guys are afraid to come out of their office. You're not gonna fight their *beep* warriors, you know what I mean? Can you imagine, this was down at a federal court in New York, with a 70-year-old judge, and they're playing Schoolly D and Led Zeppelin to the guy? It cost Schoolly like $50,000. It was a nightmare. And meanwhile, "Signifying Rapper" is 50 million times better than "Kashmir" ever thought of being. And then, this prick [Page] turns around with Puff Daddy and redoes it for the Godzilla soundtrack. Here's Puff Daddy, where every other song this boy sang was King Of New York this and King Of New York that. And I would never even *beep* think of suing these guys. Why sue? You should be happy that somebody is paying homage to your work. "

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"Can you imagine, this was down at a federal court in New York, with a 70-year-old judge, and they're playing Schoolly D and Led Zeppelin to the guy?"

LOLZ

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I've just got the Blu-Ray but it looks like i'll be hanging on to my US Laserdisc and Dutch VHS forever because the lack of the Schooly D track does hurt the film

There are two kinds of people in the world my friend those with loaded guns and those who dig

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**** "permission" it was a sample. To HELL with Led Zeppelin. Schooly D's song DESTROYS Kashmir.

I have a custom copy in 720p with the original soundtrack. I've had to do that with Return of the Living Dead as well. Cheech and Chong's Next Movie is next on my list. I just have to track down the VHS first.

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Also, talk about a ****ing hypocrite. Led Zeppelin stole most of their songs from old Blues artists, and the rest they took from bands like Spirit.

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