How the egg got on the Sulaco ........
is still a huge plot hole for this movie.
shareHow the T1000 travelled through time is a huge plot hole for Terminator 2, yet that somehow gets a free pass.
Go figure!
That’s not the same thing.
Time travel was already established in Terminator, so T2 was following the rules set by T1.
Alien 3 was not following the rules of Aliens, which was that the alien queen needed her sac to lay eggs.
Time travel was already established in Terminator, so T2 was following the rules set by T1.
Except it broke those rules. It has been a long standing question 'How was the T1000 able to go through the TDE when it isn't a living thing'. Those rules were established in the first movie when asked why Kyle didn't bring any future weapons, he said 'You come naked, nothing dead will go. Something to do with the field generated by living organisms'.
Cameron himself even said they were going to address it but chose not to.
It's not that hard to infer that the mimetic pollyalloy can mimic the properties living tissue, including the field it generates, just enough to fool the time machine, hence why the T-1000 and the T-X arrived in their human disguises instead of transforming afterwards.
Because of that, advanced terminator models like the T-1000 and T-X could bring their own built-in weapons while hiding under their mimetic skin, where as older models and humans had to find weapons once they arrived.
It's not that hard to infer that the mimetic pollyalloy can mimic the properties living tissue, including the field it generates, just enough to fool the time machine, hence why the T-1000 and the T-X arrived in their human disguises instead of transforming afterwards.
The t1000 arriving in human form was to keep it from the audience that Arnold was the good guy this time around. Unfortunately the plot was leaked before it hit the theatres
The movie fails to explain how the T1000 was able to go through the TDE so you give it a free pass by doing the job for them.
I mean the whole thing about the unexplained appearance of the egg is no different to Terminator breaking its' own time travel rules without explaining it is it, which ever way you cut it? The main difference is most people liked T2 as opposed to Alien 3.
I personally liked Alien 3, both versions, despite its glaring issues, especially at the beginning, and I still think it broke the rules of the first two Alien movies while Terminator 2 did not.
Whether or not more people liked T2 over Alien 3, the T-1000 going back in time doesn't bother people as much because there are plausible explanations for it. Whatever logic they used for the T-1000, they used again for the T-X, thus keeping with consistency.
There's no plausible explanation for the alien queen laying an egg without her sac, or any justification for writing the anticlimactic deaths of Newt and Hicks during the opening credits after everything Ripley went through in Aliens.
I personally liked Alien 3, both versions, despite its glaring issues, especially at the beginning, and I still think it broke the rules of the first two Alien movies while Terminator 2 did not.
Aliens broke the rule of Alien. Admittedly the cocoon scene was taken out so Cameron changed the life cycle of the Alien, but originally there was no Queen.
Whether or not more people liked T2 over Alien 3, the T-1000 going back in time doesn't bother people as much because there are plausible explanations for it. Whatever logic they used for the T-1000, they used again for the T-X, thus keeping with consistency.
Right there in that sentence...the T-1000 going back in time doesn't bother people as much because there are plausible explanations for it. Whatever logic they used for the T-1000, they used again for the T-X, thus keeping with consistency.
Is exactly what I'm talking about when I say people excuse T2. Let's be straight here, there was a rule established regarding time travel in the Terminator universe that Cameron himself admits he broke. We as an audience can chose to ignore it or excuse it, but it is still there. It is hypocritical to excuse a major flaw (and it is a major flaw) though in one movie and then lambast another movie for making a major flaw. In fact, there is a lot more that you can criticise T2 for than just that, but that's a different argument.
Over the years people have come up with equally inventive ways as to how that egg got there. They have always been labelled apologists, and usually by fans of Aliens who hated Alien 3. ME? I like Alien 3 (especially the Assembly Cut) and I also like Aliens. I like T2, not as much as the original, but i like it nevertheless.
As for the deaths of Hicks and Newt, I always thought that they could have been sent in a different pod to Ripley, hence negating the reason to kill them off.