You should have trusted me.
Why does Kirk say this to Spock after saying the crew was just about to retire?
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I think it would've been better phrased as you should've trusted my judgment. Spock volunteered them for the mission without running the idea by Kirk because he knew Kirk was bitter about David. Plus the irony of judgment would've tied in nicely with Spock's misplaced admiration of Valaris.
shareKirk seemed to be just fine with Klingons at the end of TFF.
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Kirk was trying to refuse the assignment of being the official olive branch towards the Klingon Empire as Kirk at this point was prejudiced against Klingons due to his son being murdered by them. Spock persisted in vouching for Kirk to get this assignment rather then trusting in Kirk that he was not the right man for the job.
shareBut Kirk clearly WAS the right man for the job, especially the way things turned out! So Spock's judgment was actually correct, and he was right to NOT "have trusted me."
If Kirk had successfully turned it down and someone else had gone instead, it seems at least possible if not likely that the plotters would have succeeded and there would have been another war.
I think he means that spock should have trusted kirk to make the 'right' decision (to accept the mission), prejudice or not.
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Gimli: You'll find more cheer in a graveyard.
Maybe so, but I can't bring myself to believe that Kirk would have accepted in the end, on his own. Not with all the history between him and the Klingons especially regarding his son.
shareCould Kirk right there and then not immediately turned in his resignation? As well as the whole crew in support?
I suppose so but they're still loyal to starfleet. And besides, if that happened we'd have a 5 minute movie.
Tucker's Law: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xe3Ou9xBAlI
I agree. I have watched this movie between many, many times and that still doesn't make sense.It would make sense if they had discussed this plan of action ahead of time and Spock decided on his own to go ahead and move forward with the plan when Kirk was opposed to it. If there was a scene in the movie that depicted this, then the line would make sense. I never read the novel, it might be there. Yet with the time restrictions in movie making, this concept could've been left out or a scene even cut from the final product.
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