Better Than Apocalypse Now


This movie shows just why Apocalypse Now is fundamentally flawed. Ludkily, one of the best documentaries ever came out of that doomed project.

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I have to agree. Coppolla readily admits it was a disaster, especially when he had to contend with Brando and basically rely on improvisation. I bet not a day passes where he is not thankful but also disbelieving of the success of the film.

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Doomed project? Did you see the same film I did? Sure, at the time he said it was a disaster, but in actuality it turned out to be one of the greatest success stories in film history. The fact that they were able to go through all that trauma and still emerge with a masterpiece is astounding. Coppola may not like how every aspect of it turned out compared to his original vision, but what he did was truly amazing. In fact, the concessions he was forced to make ultimately may have made the final result better because all the problems he encountered forced him to be more creative. The same thing happened with Lucas on Star Wars. If he had all the time and money he wanted that movie wouldn't have turned out nearly as good as it did.



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"Coppola may not like how every aspect of it turned out compared to his original vision, but what he did was truly amazing".

And, for me, to witness it was far more interesting and exhilarating than the end product. In other words my personal opinion is Hearts of Darkness is actually greater than Apocalypse Now.

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Heh--I was thinking the same thing. I'm honestly not a big fan of Apocalypse Now (my favorite Coppola movie is Tucker, so maybe I'm just insane). But I *LOVE* this documentary. Reminds me of a few projects I've worked on. :)

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I love "Tucker" too, but I actually think "One From the Heart" may be my favorite Coppola film. Regardless, I think this documentary may be slightly better than "Apocalypse Now," because the story of the filmmaking is a lot more compelling than the story that "Apocalypse Now" ultimately told.

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Absolutely agree. Apocalypse Now works better as a concept than as an interesting film, though I'm not really into war films (I think the best one I've ever seen is COMBAT SHOCK, and 80% of it takes place in New York...). I mean, I love Casualties of War and Platoon and Full Metal Jacket and all the usual suspects of classic war films, and even have a certain fondness for Apocalypse, I just find that it hasn't aged well, is overlong, is a bit of a mess, and is quite directionless.

...which is why it's PERFECT for a documentary!

I mean, the actual concept/process/filming reveals so much more, and is WAY more exhilerating, than the film itself ever could be. Because this is reality. "I swallowed a bug" is a lot more interesting than "THE HORROR! THE HORROR!"
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I mean, the actual concept/process/filming reveals so much more, and is WAY more exhilerating, than the film itself ever could be. Because this is reality. "I swallowed a bug" is a lot more interesting than "THE HORROR! THE HORROR!"


That's crazy talk.

I really have no idea what people see in this glorified DVD featurette. I was imagining some intense fly-on-the-wall documentary about a production from hell, where everything goes wrong and Coppola has an existential crisis. Instead, I got a very rich man having fun and talking about what an artist he is. The poor dear sometimes worries that his movie won't be well-received. Well, woopty ****ing doo. Where is the trauma? The drama? The filmmaker's apocalypse?

Keitel isn't shown at all, and his dismissal is only dealt with in very brief voiceover. Sheen apparently has a heart attack, but that only gives the crew a chance to relax and capture some cool master shots (Sheen soon comes back looking no worse for wear). A typhoon damages the sets, but everyone is happy 'cos they get to go home for a few weeks. The production goes over budget, but it only means that the Coppolas might have to move out of their 22-bedroom castle into a smaller mansion. Brando seems perfectly reasonable and professional. Everyone seems to be having fun right up until the last day of the shoot. There's nothing important at stake and it never even comes close to collapsing. I just couldn't relate, you know? I wish I'd rewatched the actual film instead.

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To top things off, there´s this quite ridiculously pretentious voiceover by Coppola´s woman who never missed a chance to try and remind us just how dramatic everything on and around the set was, even though she was constantly contradicted by the images accompanying & surrounding her faux-poetic blather. Always interesting to see the behind-the-scenes footage of one´s favourite movies, but as a standalone documentary, this one don´t come close to living up to its incomprehensibly elevated reputation.



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That's crazy talk.


No, that's my brother Crazy Talk. We're all a little worried about him.

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I still prefer the movie, but the documentary is a fascinating insight on how Coppola somehow completed this picture. I'm surprised he didn't go insane after finishing Apocalypse Now.

"I think we've out-sophisticated ourselves out of some of the pleasures of movies."

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Love both the film and the doc. But slightly off topic, anyone here a gamer? If so, the video game Spec Ops: The Line is, in my opinion, the best version of this story. It's Apocolypse Now/Heart of Darkness but modern day in a destroyed Dubai. The way they executes the psychology and horror is so masterfully done.

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