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Gaping plot holes (spoilers)


At the trial, the preacher guy comes in and testifies that Idgie actually wasn't at her mother's house on the night Frank disappeared like she'd testified, but was in fact at his revival. It apparently doesn't occur to anyone to question why Idgie would have lied about that. Was she supposed to have been so embarrassed about having been at a revival that she'd rather testify to something completely unverifiable, and thereby take the very real risk of being convicted of murder, rather than admit it? Makes no sense. What's embarrassing about being at a revival? I understand that the point here is that preachers had enormous credibility in Southern courts of that era merely by virtue of being preachers, but it just seems wildly unlikely that the prosecutor wouldn't say "Well, in that case, why didn't she say so?" when the judge was getting ready to dismiss his case. Also, the prosecutor says "that doesn't prove anything; the murder could have happened two or three days later," allowing the preacher to counter with "yes, but our revivals go on for three days," but in fact the murder could have equally well happened two or three weeks, months or years later, given that they had no body and no evidence at all of when it actually happened. Nothing magic about the three-day figure that the prosecutor happened to pick out of the air except that it happens to be a credible length of time for a revival to last.

And then, at the end, there's that little teaser thing about how maybe Ninny and Idgie are the same person. I gather from some of the other comments that this wasn't based on anything in the book, and given how ham-handedly it was done, I can readily believe that. The basis of it that there's a note from Idgie on Ruth's grave, and Evelyn and the viewer are both led to wonder if Ninny, who was sitting right there, wrote the note. Indeed, she might have. But what she really couldn't have done is leave the other thing that we see on Ruth's grave, a canning jar with honeycomb in it, covered with a nice little rustic piece of cloth. Where are we supposed to think that Ninny came by something like that on her taxi ride from the nursing home to Whistlestop? It obviously wasn't a commercial product, since it didn't have a label, so she couldn't have had the taxi driver stop at a Winn-Dixie to pick it up. To me, that jar of honeycomb was definitive proof that Ninnie and Idgie were NOT the same person -- which means that the movie was kind of unsatisfactory in that we never find out what happened to Idgie.

And speaking of the taxi ride: so, the people at the nursing home just casually let Ninny check out and get in a taxi and go home, when they were all totally aware that the home she was going to had been torn down? Srsly? That's just cruel, to say nothing of being major lawsuit material.

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she could of had the jar of honey with her while at the care home and then written the note later on, and left it at Ruth's grave.

There is plenty of evidence to support Idgie and Ninny being the same person, books and films do not have to be followed word for word. There are plenty of films which differ from the books they have been adapted from.
















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Go to this link, it explains how even in the movie, Idgie and Ninny are NOT the same person!

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101921/faq#.2.1.1

They deliberately left it a bit vague in the movie, because it would have been too difficult to show how Ninny knew what she did, which is easily shown in the book but difficult, lenghty and adds a new dimension and main character, if they had shown it in the movie.

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Besides, Ninny clearly says when she start her story about Idgie and Ruth, that she was married to Idgie's brother Cleo!

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It makes very much sense that if Idgie WAS at the revival that she WOULD lie about it because she hates church and it's a well known fact, she said it herself she didn't know if jail or church was worse.

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I think that the testimony of the preacher just shows how people in the south (and most places) at that time in history believed EVERYTHING preachers and "godly" people said. It probably would have been considered sinful and even alienating in a small town like that to accuse a preacher of lying.

Ninny is Ninny, not Idgie. It's even said in a FAQ on the main page that she is not Idgie.

I think that might have been a bit of a plot hole, but I don't think the staff knew about the torn down house. Also, there are lots of negligent nursing homes, so I truly wouldn't be surprised if things like that really did happen!

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When the Reverend was giving testimony, they also messed up the year - calling it September 30, 1933, when earlier in the trial it was clearly stated that the date of his death was September 30, 1932. Buddy Jr. was born in 1933, 9 months (probably a bit less) after that, not in 1934.

A further point is that Idgie testified she was in the town show, so if she had been at the revival, that would have been a further lie. The prosecution obviously did a very poor job of getting their evidence straight.

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What's embarrassing about being at a revival? I understand that the point here is that preachers had enormous credibility in Southern courts of that era merely by virtue of being preachers, but it just seems wildly unlikely that the prosecutor wouldn't say "Well, in that case, why didn't she say so?" when the judge was getting ready to dismiss his case.

The thing is she's not supposed to prove her innocence, the prosecutor is supposed to prove her guilt. The judge was looking for a reason to dismiss the case entirely. They had no proof she was involved, no body, they couldn't even tell if the man was dead or not. The preacher's word was just the excuse the judge needed to throw it all out of court.

Besides, Ninny clearly says when she start her story about Idgie and Ruth, that she was married to Idgie's brother Cleo!

She could be lying and you'll note that we don't see Cleo once in the movie. Only Julian and Buddy. They intended on suggesting the possiblity.

I don't think it's unsatisfactory either way. I think both solutions are so like Idgie. Whether she's Ninny or she's just out there somewhere, charming bees, it's a charmed life.

For every lie I unlearn I learn something new - Ani Difranco

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She was in the nursing home voluntarily, taking care of her friend. She said that at the beginning. She seemed perfectly capable of taking care of herself so they would have no reason to hold her. They did know about the house being torn down so that part is questionable.

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