candy is funnier than o 'neil so would have been better in this role? or o'Neil? ed did a good job n besides with candy that might have made it to much like pta a movie alot of people all ready compared this too. perhaps thats why candy dident get this or dident want it. any other thoughts on this?
shareCandy is not funnier than oneil
sharecandy not funnier than o'neil? good joke . while o'neil was more of a succes on tv than candy candy was was in better in movies n had way more leading roles pta alone is funnier than anything o'neil has ever done n that incudles married with children.
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I think O'Neill is more suited for the Dutch character than Candy would have been.
shareI believe Candy is a better comedian. But O'Neill was perfect for the role.
shareJohn Candy had alreay done this type of character in "Uncle Buck." Ed O'Neill proved himself a gifted actor in this role.
shareJohn Candy would have been good for the roll. I could easily see him playing Dutch. However, as "caladon" mentioned, Candy had already done Uncle Buck.
An "Uncle Buck II" would have been much better.
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I don't get how people see this as Uncle Buck.
More like Planes, Trains, and Automobiles.
Ed O'Neil's character intentionally sabotaged their trip at first pretending to be worse off than he was so he could get to know the kid.
This doesn't remind you at all of Candy's role? Particularly combined with the fact that this entire film was very similar to the Planes?
I wasn't compairing it to Uncle Buck. Visualizing John Candy in the role of Dutch would have reminded me more of Uncle Buck than Candy's character in PT&A.
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Ed O'Neil did a great job and was perfect for the roleWhen there's no more room in hell, The dead will walk the earth...
Whether or not O'Neil is a better actor is irrelevant; O'Neil was perfect for this role - much better than Candy would have been.
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This film already has similarities to Planes,Trains, and Automobiles.
Candy played the spoiler in that film, he made a few subversive steps that kept his friend with him on the journey.
The films are very different, but it would be too close for comfort I think. Ed played this brilliantly. I don't know why it did so poorly.
I love John Candy, but the film would have been too much like "Uncle Buck" and "Planes, Trains, and Automobiles". I'm glad we had a new cast.
shareAs funny as Candy esd, he's never truly played a no-nonsense character, he's always played a goofball to various degrees. He's probably the funnier of the 2 actors but O'Neil is the better actor and he's also tougher. The scenes where dutch has to toughen up (either mentally or physically) were far more believable with O Neil than Candy.
Perhaps Candy would have been a little bit funnier especially in the scenes Dutch gets beaten up and knocked around. But the serious scenes wouldn't have been as good especially when he has to step up and be a man (ie the last scene with the father).
Candy would have been a warmer, sweeter presence but O'Neil was more credible as a semi-romantic lead and the type of guy who could stand up to Christopher McDonald's snob. O'Neil has more of an edge which means he's not as instantly likeable as the late Candy but he is tougher and more assertive.
I'm a bigger fan of Candy than O'Neil (although I like O'Neil too) but in this case I think the casting worked out for the best.
Like you say leeaf83, Candy is more the loveable goofball/screw-up, whereas O'Neil is able to play 'Dutch' as someone who is generally a 'winner'/success, but nevertheless finds himself, in this instance, out of his element upon mixing with snooty elitists. Since this film is all about the 'snob versus self-made guy' dynamic it makes sense to boil down the lead character to a fundamentally regular and sorted kind of guy, albeit one who just doesn't happen to come from the 'right class'.