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one of the underrated films ever made


Dogfight joins the ranks of A Thousand Clowns, Joe Vs. The Volcano, The Loved One, Cradle Will Rock, Arizona Dream (another great film starring Lili Taylor) and Punch-Drunk Love as one of the one of the greatest yet underrated films of all time (not counting already "established" cult films like Office Space and Donnie Darko). Both these films deserve a cult following, or at least, more appreciation in the near future. The closest thing it has ever been honored was when it was one of the 400 nominated films up for inclusion in AFI's 100 most romantic films of all time (it didn't make the final cut). Lili Taylor and the late River Phoenix both gave unforgettable yet underappreciated performances. Also, the music and set design were terrific. Does anybody know if a soundtrack is still available? This film also joins the ranks of the most intelligent love stories ever made in the silver screen alongside Harold & Maude, Marty, Before Sunset & its sequel Before Sunset.

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I'm inviting all of those who frequent this message board to come up with your lists of movies that all of you think should have been more greatly appreciated instead of being overlooked (recently-established cult films like Donnie Darko and Office Space don't count). Here's my list:

1. Dogfight (1991)
2. Joe Versus the Volcano (1990)
3. Arizona Dream (1993)
4. Smile (1975)
5. The Loved One (1965)
6. A Thousand Clowns (also from 1965)
7. Ginger & Fred (1986, one of Fellini's last films)
8. Punch-Drunk Love (2002)
9. Cradle Will Rock (1999)
10. Tinimbang Ka Ngunit Kulang (a Filipino film made in 1974, the title translates to "You Are Weighed But Found Wanting")

Honorable mention: Children of Heaven (1997 children's film from Iran), Maynila sa Kuko ng Liwanag ("Manila in the Claws of Night", 1975, also from the director of TKNK), and Robert Altman's 1980 fiasco Popeye.


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I call these "Little Movies" which I think can count as underappreciated, in no particular order

Flirting
Dogfight
Gas Food Lodging
Year My Voice Broke
Lawn Dogs
You Can Count On Me
Rambling Rose
InSignifigance
Damage
Parents

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In no particular order:

Dogfight
Mumford
Wrestling Ernest Hemingway
Before Sunrise
Before Sunset
Waking The Dead
Dreamcatcher (Ed Radtke's film, not the stupid horror sci-fi by Kasdan)
Tully

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Dogfight
Running On Empty
Rocket Science
Targets (1968)
Matinee
My Bodyguard
Sunshine (2007)
Gattaca
Lonesome Jim
A Better Place

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Excellent film. I love how, despite its premise, it's almost impossible to pick only one character perspective to relate to, even be sympathetic to. You find yourself understanding life and ideological perspectives you maybe never considered before. The characters are very human and realistic in how they interact.

A quick assessment and Eddie could be written off as a jerk and Rose as a woman without self-worth. But life, people, relationships and human attraction is so much more complicated than that --- far, more complicated than our pretty ideals would like them to be. That could be pegged as the entire point of this film. Eddie craves acceptance but he also has a conscience that pulls at him, when he least expects it. Rose is, both, emotionally wise and socially astute but also ideologically naive, regarding the hard realities of defense; she's had her troubles as an "ugly duckling" but audiences get the sense that Eddie has carried some deeper troubles of his own, with hints in his story that he might have endured an abusive childhood. He sounds like a man who remembers what it was like to have to fight back. The way these two characters are able to slowly peel back the layers of their life stories made their interaction feel so real; it's exactly like how it really is, when two people get to know each other, for the first time.



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What really reminds us that these characters are not hollow, that we didn't waste time investing in them, is how Eddie makes himself totally vulnerable before Rose at the end and Rose is authentic enough in her beliefs, to not immediately reject him. Unlike the trend conscious, unforgiving individuals that filled the area after The War, Rose is the real deal; she was not anti-war because it was socially righteous and fashionable, she was against it because she's a compassionate human being. There's no "baby killer" contempt coming from her. She sees Eddie's humanity, first and understands how complicated it's all been.

In the end, Rose has the power between them and she carries it with grace. There's a truth and beauty in her spirit, that Eddie finally understands.

This is one of my favorite films.

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