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Dream Scene?

posted 12 years ago by tristandude14
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I always felt that the scene in between Luke escaping the ballroom and being chased outside (with the baby carriage scene and him running back to his hotel room) was all a dream. It isn't in the book and it seems unlikely that the witches would've chased him out in broad daylight. And it also seems odd that the Grand High Witch was able to get him back to the ballroom without anyone noticing. I mean, I know she's all magic and everything and could use her powers, but the cut back to the ballroom when they give Luke the potion seems to be just a continuation of right before Luke escaped. You can hear a witch going "We got him, madam!" as if some of the other witches caught him before he could escape as opposed to the Grand High Witch getting him herself. The hotel also seemed really empty when Luke was running upstairs to his grandmother's room, so it always seemed like a dream to me. Just a thought.....

[–] CroseusProject 12 years ago

Not being in the book doesn't matter. There's a few scenes that are not in the book, like the maid putting the mouse maker on her neck like it's perfume and then growing mouse hair there.

It's not meant to be a dream. The witches chased Luke, cornered him eventually in his hotel room, and somehow transported him back to the ballroom. Probably using magic.

[–] IvoryNaymex 11 years ago

Yeah cheers for that, Buzz Killington. The OP does have a point there. The whole bit with the pram being pushed down the hill and his desperate escape were somewhat dreamlike to me.

It's not the years, honey; it's the mileage.

[–] CroseusProject 11 years ago

I'm not being a buzz kill. I'm being a realist. Whether you found it dream like or not doesn't make it a dream.

[–] abens_98 11 years ago

I don't see a point where it would make sense that it transitioned into a dream. There's no way Luke would doze off in a room full of witches, and we don't see any kind of blow to the head or anything that would indicate he loses touch with reality.

[–] CroseusProject 11 years ago

Exactly. His grandmother did actually pass out in the hotel room, too. How could Luke have known that in a dream, unless it wasn't a dream.

[–] hiddenagenda1 11 years ago

I just watched this movie recently, and I didn't get that impression at all.

Volker Flenske: (While torturing David) I don't know why you're doing this to yourself!

[–] Madman-10 9 years ago

This part is quite confusing and I think the editor must have trimmed it down a bit, Helga is obviously dreaming about Luke in danger and the all the baby off a cliff stuff is part of this nightmare, in reality, Luke doesn't even get out of the meeting room and is caught by the witches. It really is not clear though.