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Keitel and Tilly are miscast in this


THE TWO JAKES really needed a different actor than Keitel as it's "villain" (in quotations because, well, you'll know if you've seen it). Keitel's a decent actor, but he's too low key for this kind of a role. He doesn't radiate enough menace as Jake Berman, which I think was necessary to make the third act revelations about his character hit home a bit harder. I wonder if it's a case of simply using a taller, more imposing actor less prone to the mumbles than Keitel. I like the character's arc in this, but I just don't think Keitel has the right KIND of presence for such a potentially outsize character, something John Huston had in spades for CHINATOWN.

Meg Tilly, on the other hand, is WAY-HAY-HAYYYY out of her league as the pivotal sorta-kinda-femme-fatale in this. She'd been in movies for a few years by the time THE TWO JAKES hit screens, but you'd think this was her first movie, so distracted and unshaped is her performance. I'm willing to accept a certain amount of that with a genetically-compromised character like the one she plays, but more often than not we're not seeing planned affectations so much as simply acting limitations (perhaps Nicholson wore too many hats to notice?). And I tend to think that casting a mixed-race actress to play the grown-up spawn of incest is a bit tasteless, too. Granted, Jennifer Tilly has always been the better actress of the Tilly sisters, and while she would have been entirely inappropriate for the role of Kitty, I'm certain the casting of her sister--who's physically attractive in the role, but otherwise unmemorable--was a rather notable mistake.

Still, I'm not sure any sequel to it, no matter how perfect the cast, was ever going to top CHINATOWN.

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Gotta agree.
Even without comparing it to the masterpiece that was 'Chinatown', their are numerous flaws with the film.. Writing & casting..
But I have a thing for any period piece involving early L.A., So.. I enjoy the hell out of it.

Well it's nearly a year later.. but have to add what I ignored before...
Meg Tilly wasn't perfect.... but still good enough.
She didn't have blond hair but was redhead..
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Jack's direction was 'mature'. and he at least got the movie finally done. Enjoyable.. but something kept it from being great??? .;. .. just didn't seem to have an.... 'edge'.. to it..
And the ending... Way to mature of a final scene... but I enjoyed it..
Believe the movie was done w/one of those filters.. give it an other world past feel to it.. that was a major decision made by, I assume. Jack.. Gutsy but think the landscape/photography .. as in 'chinatown'.. might?? have done it best..
But I still love it.. Jack was brilliant.. Harvey while not the best for Jack was also brilliant.. off hand can't think of anyone who wasn't.. ...... ... Just... the script could've been abit.. more. ?????? edgey...

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Evidentally, neither of U realise that originally Robert Evans was to play the role, but at the last minute, Keitel stepped in. Now, I happen to feel he was the perfect one for the role; perhaps, Meg could have been replaced as well, but both me and my wife thought it was the best thing she ever did. Perhaps, in the far distant future, all of us can come together and make that perfect remake.

Obtained from the liver of the inflatable mongoose.

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I agree that Meg Tilly was miscast; she physically resembled the young Katherine, but, she seemed young and callow in the role. She's not a sophisticate, but more of a waif. The Lauren Bacall hairstyle and clothes didn't help and she had a curiously nasal voice. She's been teriffic in other things and the late 80's and 90's were her best acting years. Maybe with a better script her casting would have made more sense. Virginia Madsen would have been a great Katherine.

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What about this:

Robert De Niro as Jake Berman

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I agree with Meg Tilly being miscast. Tilly is pretty, but she just doesn't look good as a blonde.

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Actually, I thought Meg Tilly had fit the part. She was somewhat of a mysterious woman, more angelic and dream-like than seductive - which is how Jake Gittes had always seen Katherine. There is the scene at the end where Kitty / Katherine attempts to kiss Jake Gittes, but he pulls away. He still views her as that child in the context of "Chinatown".

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good call .... agreed

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