I finally watched THE TWO JAKES for the very first time. It didn't get good reviews from the critics and most of the people who watched it. The director got some sadistic thrill confusing the heck out of the viewers with subplots, nuances, innuendos, twists, and confusing characterizations. I've seen some still photos lifted from the movie. Why did Jake Gittes start fondling Lillian Bodine's (Madeleine Stowe) butt cheeks underneath her panties? I thought it might be a set-up. Lillian Bodine was pulling one of those now politically-incorrect rape fantasies, 'don't take me against my will, but go ahead and do it and make me cum' routine. I thought Lillian Bodine didn't have her head screwed on right and if I was Jake Gittes, I would have thrown her out of the office. I wasn't sure if Lillian Bodine was pulling a fake, ditzy chick snowjob on Gittes and trying to set him up. There's a lot of cunning, ruthless chicks out there who wouldn't hesitate to stoop to pulling a fake, dumb broad routine in order to swindle some clueless guy whose little head is getting harder than his big head.
Ms.Stowe always does an excellent acting job...she may be a method actor..I do not know. The kissing with Giddes and what followed... was disgusting..no redeeming social value..filth. Ms.Stowe is roped into too many scenes such as that one...not good. Ms.Stowe's best work could be Last of the Mohicans..Day-Lewis brings uot the best in fellow actors.
SIDE POINT: Nicholson did kinda strike me a while back as miscalculating his attractiveness until I grew up and realized women probably did ued to throw themselves at him in his hey day. The man is COOL.
I believe the point of the scene was to show the wife DID NOT CARE about the affair or her husband, that she was herself a strange kind of tart. I DO NOT think it was a rape fantasty. I don't think Gittes would participate n a rape fantasy. I don't think he understood at all what she was doing, except that she was beautiful and throwing herself at him and he is a man and unable to turn her down. As a man myself, I can hardly blame him.
I think the intent of the scene was essentially comic, and to show that side of the story did not really have any concern for the audience, that all of our care should be directed towards the Keitel side of things.
The Stowe character was getting off on the murder tape...that's why she screamed for him to turn it off WHILE PREVENTING Gittes from being able to do so. Then she made it seem like he was taking advantage of the situation and seducing her (different from rape, right?). At some point, Nicholson is like, look, I'll go along, whatever this is, and grabs her dumper.
It's not black and white, but I think it's awesome, right? I've never seen anything like that in a movie.
I believe the point of the scene was to show the wife DID NOT CARE about the affair or her husband, that she was herself a strange kind of tart.
Right--which was also the point of her immediately interpreting "whipstocking" in the way she did.
Given what we learn about Mr. Bodine throughout the course of the film, it's probably not a surprise that she didn't really care about him--and thus she was using his death merely as a means of ensuring that she wasn't screwed out of money. Folks might think, "Well then why did she turn down 5-6 million dollars when Nicholson's Jake fielded it to her?" The implied answer was that her lawyer felt confident that they could get more than that in the end--and her only concern was to double-check with her lawyer just how much he thought she'd get. Hence her panicked reaction in court when the tape was changed and it looked like she might get nothing.
Being an absolute nut about film noir and neo noir I've always felt this entire scene was done from the standpoint of a comedic moment in a very deadly serious story; otherwise, it hardly works and the blurting out of the business about stockings and whips is way too hilarious to be an accident of lousy writing.
Obtained from the liver of the inflatable mongoose.
lol I'm not sure if she was getting off on hearing the recording but that scene cracks me up when I watch it, especially when he grabs her and her skirt comes off.
That sex scene with Jake saved the movie from being overtly and resoundingly boring. It was badly paced from beginning to end, and the complex script wore me out. I've revisited it many times, butt only to watch that one scene. It's one of the MOST erotic in mainstream movie history! Beautifully directed and acted. I wonder how much of it was improvised on the spot? Stowe went way beyond anything she's ever done. Definitely her finest moment in film! Totally committed!