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Just saw Directors Cut

posted 10 years ago by SawFish77
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Man I love film, I have movies in my collection people hate and make fun of.
Cheese or Academy Award stuff, I can generally watch anything.
I also read Cabal, my buddy and I passed it around one summer.
And when seemigly unloved movie get a new life I get giddy.
However beyond great Canadian genius Cronenberg, I cant get into either version of this film. Starts ok but falls away into chaos and never recovers.
As a Canadian I found the police totally and completely unbelivable, the two leads are dull and the monsters are unlikeable for heros.
Love Hellraiser and Hellbound.
Not sure if the DC was released in 1990 if it would have mdae any difference, the only time the film shines is when Cronenberg is on.

[–] TheSolarSailor 10 years ago

Well, the story simply isn't for everyone. I disagree with your assessment, but it's alright to have differing views and to not enjoy the same things. Did you like the novel? Just curious.

As for your what-if scenario about a completed version getting released back in 1990, I dare say that it still wouldn't have found a large audience had everything went according to plan. In many ways, I think it was ahead of its time and tackled subject matter that people didn't want to think about. I think that the acceptance of gay people since 1987 (when the book was written) has in some way enabled this story to stand out and garner a larger audience than it once did. I am not saying that gay people alone inflated the audience, but rather pointing to the acceptance of this very issue among the general populace versus 25 years ago.

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[–] SawFish77 10 years ago

Thanks for the reply, I did like the novel CABAL, and love Barkers work, for me at least somethhing was really off here, moreso the humans than the monsters.
However who am I to judge, I have The Pit, PIN and Maximum Overdrive in my collection lol.

[–] TheSolarSailor 10 years ago

You know what they say, the book is always better than the movie!!!! I have always enjoyed the film ever since seeing it in theaters so long ago. The movie got me to read the novel, actually. I can see where you are coming from, though, with your issue with the police. Aside from Inspector Joyce (who is not in the novel), the Shere Neck police were a bunch of goons. They were more caricatures than anything. In any case, the only places I feel that the movie sort of failed to deliver concerns that importance of Baphomet's judgement and how it plays into what happens with Ashberry towards the end. I see this as a point of confusion for many people, which shows that the film failed to get the point across where Ashberry is concerned, even the new cut.

I notice you mention Hellraiser and Hellbound in your first post. I enjoyed Hellraiser because it was shocking and different and dared to explore the strange world of sadism and masochism. It was a truly daring effort, I think. Sadly, I did not like Hellbound. I think there were many interesting avenues that the series could have taken as opposed to becoming the Pinhead show. Clive Barker once said in a 1989 interview that he noticed a lot of fans seem to like one or the other, but not necessarily both Hellraiser films. I was one who fell into that category.

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Whose idea was it for the word LISP to have an S in it?

[–] SawFish77 10 years ago

....well maybe Ill giver another chance Halloween night.