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Cher clearly demanding!


Love her, but did anyone read the trivia? She seems like she is one demanding actress. Booted the first choice for Charlotte and I think the director too. She also fought hard for Nic Cage in Moonstruck and WON that battle! that takes a lot for a former hippy from the variety show "Sonny and Cher" back in the day when her bump long nose and her strong Cherokee singing voice and Bob Mackie outfits were her thing. LOL. Gotta love her though. I actually love all her movies. From this one to Moonstruck to Mask to Suspect to Silkwood, that girl is good.

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would you feel the same if it was not Cher? She is difficult and thinks she knows more than the director. Even if she did, she is very selfish to behave that way, especially when these MALE directors were charitable enough to give her roles, which she felt entitled to. She wasn't entitled to anything. When you are bestowed with something, you act grateful, not like a spoiled child. Yeah, so lovable

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I enjoy watching Cher in her movies, and it is a pity that she didn't make more popular ones after the 90's. She was always good value. However, I think she has been her own worst enemy in regards to her movie career. Her reputation of being difficult and demanding, preceded her. Perhaps she can't help herself, due to having a narcissistic personality and feeling self-entitled; but her roots of variety tv\comedy and music and being the show pony she is, I suppose that is just her nature. Being exceptionally "arrogant" and not able to reign this in or acknowledge it, only shows how some never grow out of certain personality traits, regardless of talent and stature in society. Cher knew how to play the game to get on top; but her phoniness can also be transparent to those willing to look deeper.

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Rascal, I like Cher, too. Never had a problem with her and am frankly surprised to hear that some people find her to be phony. Who knows? Maybe I am one of those who fell for her charms. Lol! (I do believe that people will look for evidence to support what they want to believe. Some people do this more than others. )

About "being difficult". I don't know. Weren't both Bette Davis and Joan Crawford both supposedly "difficult "? I would think that to be a success in show-business, a person could almost expect to find themselves in some kind of "fight or flight", "sink or swim" predicament. Also, people tend to believe their public, and some people (like you said, Rascal) are better at "playing the game" than others. And it likely be those people who don't care that certain people (re: SMS) will go out of their way to judge them regardless
To some extent I wish I were a little more like this. Caring what other people think is not always a good thing. It has its disadvantages. In life sometimes a thick skin is just what's called for.

I know a lot of it is so unfair.

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Hey Mr H, Cher tends to rub me up the wrong way, when I have seen her in interviews or presentation shows and what I have read about from some directors she has worked with. There appears something fake about her to me and attention seeking. I would say the same for Crawford or Davis; but they were a different generation of actresses and could get away with it. Look a Joan and the abuse of her children, and because she was JC, she got away with it.

I recall in the 80's or early 90's, watching George Miller talking about WITCHES OF EASTWICK-87' and if I recall correctly, he said he would work with Susan Sarandon and Michelle Pfeiffer again, just not Cher. That said, who am I to judge; but I think she would be a scary woman to be around if not on her level.

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It is something I haven't forgotten hearing Nan. Since I can't find or locate the quote and it was around 25yrs ago, I can't be absolutely certain it was Miller who said this; but I feel quite confident it was him. It seems to back up what other directors have commented about working with Cher. I guess as much as I enjoyed seeing Cher act, I haven't been swayed or convinced, by whatever "charm" she exuded off the silver screen. Not a big fan of her music or personal style.

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Don't jump to conclusions Rascal, as you did concerning another one of my recent posts regarding a different topic, because I'm not attempting to correct you. I recently saw an episode of The Tavis Smiley Show on PBS in which Peter Bogdanovich had very similar things to say about her and said that he wouldn't like to work with her again. He was speaking of course about Mask and made reference to them having clashed and her having refused to take his direction.

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Don't jump to conclusions Rascal, as you did concerning another one of my recent posts regarding a different topic, because I'm not attempting to correct you.
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By all means, please attempt to correct me, if you feel I have said something inaccurate or you need to put another spin on something. That is the nature and purpose of these boards, and conclusions can and usually do get jumped to, by the tone, manner and use of language\terms. I wouldn't take it too personally.

I have read about Bogdanovich's anti Cher comments; but by that same token, I think he is a pompous and arrogant ass himself. Perhaps they deserved each other. His MASK-85', while very moving and is well acted, is one the most 80's, set in the 70's movies I have seen. I don't think much effort was made to make it look like a 70's set film and the director should be responsible for the style and design of his film. I think with more effort, this could have been even better. That said, it is the story that counts with this one.

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She sounds like a total cVnt. When I read that, I was disgusted. The fact that she even made such large demands in the first place, and even moreso that everyone LISTENED to her...

Cher, honey, Sit DOWN, you egotistical old bag.

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Love her, but did anyone read the trivia? She seems like she is one demanding actress. Booted the first choice for Charlotte and I think the director too. She also fought hard for Nic Cage in Moonstruck and WON that battle! that takes a lot for a former hippy ...


She wasn't just some hippy who got cool. She had a rough childhood; she was on her own at age 16; and she grew up in the days when it was still a man's world. The only way she knew how to make it was by sticking up for herself.

Try reading a few paragraphs of her bio before you judge her:

Cher
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cher

BTW, for those who are interested, her last name is Sarkisian, which is Armenian (same as the Kardashians).

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Before we judge her, you say. Not only was Lloyd replaced, but the first two directors due to Cher. That's not "sticking up for yourself". Her childhood was no rougher than many others. She was not abused or neglected, and she was a star by the age of 18. Actually, you'd think she would be more considerate due to her "rough" childhood.

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Not only was Lloyd replaced, but the first two directors due to Cher. That's not "sticking up for yourself".


I never said it was. You are arguing against a position not taken.

But it is possible that she believed she was.



Actually, you'd think she would be more considerate due to her "rough" childhood.


More considerate of what?
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