I presume this question has been asked a million times, so i apologise, but I cant find any threads about on this board.
Why is it called Lord of the Flies? The only reference I can see is the flies hanging about on the pig's head. Also, I havent read the book, maybe the title is explained in there?
Thank you in advance.
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You'd be right about the flies around the pigs head, its almost as if the flies are worshiping the pigs head. Now you can read into that as much as you want. Read the book, it helps alot.
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Simon has a delusional conversation with the head of the dead pig, swarming with flies.
The pig tells him that that the only thing they have to fear on the island is of the evil inside of themselves, not any tangible thing like "the beast" that they're afraid of.
Once Simon understands that there is no actual monster or beast (and that the dead pilot is what they actually mistake to be the beast), he runs to tell the others that there's nothing to fear, but they get scared by him, mistake HIM for the beast, and he gets killed.
So the "Lord of the Flies" (the dead pig's head) is a metaphor for the fear that rules/controls/is-Lord-over the boys and makes them do evil things that they wouldn't normally do.
Simon already knew they were the beast, before he saw the pig's head.
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I do not understand it, but it is impressive sounding, rather than "Stranded Schoolboys in thier Underwear" Lord of the Flies sounds very cool.
share"Lord of the Flies" is a direct translation of the Hebrew word "Beelzabub" which translates as "The Evil One" or, more commonly, "The Devil". Very appropriate seeing as how the story is all about the evil inside a human's soul...
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"I do not understand it, but it is impressive sounding, rather than "Stranded Schoolboys in thier Underwear" Lord of the Flies sounds very cool."
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The Lord of the Flies does loosely translate to beelzebub, which in the epic poem Paridise Lost, is satans "sidekick" if you will. Not extremely relevant to the story or post for that matter. It does relate to the evil side of things, almost the evil one. Jack would be looked at as the antoganist, the bad guy, and technically he won. He got the boys on his side, is unorganized and barbaric side. It also relates to the pig head and how simon is the only one that can understand this, which results in his death. I would assume that the title cause controversy since it is leaned to the evil side of doing things instead of the "good" way, but the book sets out a cleaner palette of why he decided to title it that.
shareI didn't realize the title directly references Satan/Beelzebub but that makes the book even more brilliant in my mind.
When I read the book (and watched the movie) the first thing that crossed my mind about Jack (the point where the kids explained that he'd stolen his neighbour's car so he was put into military school) was that he was a sociopath. On the island, he was very much in his element as a sociopath and was able to manipulate the other kids into doing things they would never, ever have done under normal circumstances.
I think it's interesting that the author was intuitive enough to explore what would happen if a typical sociopath like Jack (not the serial killer kind, just the garden variety kind who grows up to embezzles money or have multiple affairs or lies pathologically, etc) is taken out of his normally restrictive environment and put into an environment where he has absolutely no boundaries whatsoever. Kinda scary, actually.
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I'm not inclined to think Golding would agree that Jack is "a typical sociopath." This version of the film gives us a rather charismatic Jack, one who seems to have quite a few characteristics that might be considered redeeming qualities in a different environment. If he hadn't ended up on the island, he very well may have grown up to be a fully functional adult, is how I see him, and I definitely think that's one of the most important redeeming qualities of this movie, especially when compared to the cold-fish Jack of the 1963 version. I rather suspect William Golding would prefer Chris Furrh's Jack to the 1963 Jack.
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I have to disagree strongly, respectfully. This version was so unfaithful to the novel, its criminal. The 1963 version was an excellent adaptation which was as true to the novel as possible. I thought the 1963 version of Jack was excellent, and much more how he came off in the novel. My 7th grade class read the novel and then we watched the original film just this past year, the 1990 film was never even considered. The 1963 adaptation is considered a classic, whereas the 1990, is generally considered crap.
It took a lot of nerve by the screen writer to alter the story line so much so that the main theme of the novel is glossed over. I could answer the OP's question in a few paragraphs, but I can see how if someone saw the only the 1990 version, they would have no clue.
What would Golding think of the 1990 screenplay? The issue of the "Beast", a major in not defining theme of the novel is not mentioned once in the "new and improved" version.
It's about the pig head that has flies around it. This 1990 version was a forgotten classic, but there is one thing I don't understand this movie has moderate violence and f- bombs involving children R in the States, 12 in Germany. Gremlins which is a children's horror a PG in the States, but a 16 in Germany?
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I suggest you read the book or see the 1963 film. The 1990 film changes MAJOR portions of the story. Here's a hint, the title IS NOT about the pig's head with flies around it. Its a bit more complex than that.
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Well you completely misunderstood it, so its beyond your comprehension. Remember the recurring theme of "The Beast"? in the book and 1963 film? This was completely omitted from the 1990 film. Its not a children's book, but its about kids that age, thats why you read it 7th grade. You should read the Cliff Notes if you want to know what the title means.
sharechas437 you think your so smart trying to take a 7th grade book so SERIOUSLY. Hey GENUIS if I'm so wrong then how come 95% of the posts agree with my statement! I haven't seen this movie in 5 years and the title is just COMMON SENSE! People like you chas437 is why America is now cruel, lazy and stupid!
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I pity you and your stupidity, read all the posts on this thread, and you will understand the meaning of the title. "Lord of the Flies"=Satan. You ar etoo stupid to converse with, bye bye moron.
shareHey chas437 some people in this country don't even beileve in SATAN. You probably just learned something new! I'm a moron, LOL! You ar etoo stupid to converse with, bye bye moron. More like you are too STUPID to converse with, farewell jackass!
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The author isn't refering to Satan as the religious figure out of the Bible, rather as a mad-made personification of evil. So, whether or not you believe in Satan, (I don't believe in the biblical Satan), Golding is writing about evil and its personification (Satan)as the central theme of his novel. The beast is symbolized by the pig's head, but we see the spirit of the Beast in Jack and his murderous clan, and in the shot down fighter pilot who lands on the island. He is orinally thought to be the beast by the children and he also symbolizes World War 3, the ultimate evil of mankind.
shareSorry about being a jerk chas437. I just still don't get the rating system in West Germany because this is a 12 and Gremlins which is a children's Horror is a 16? Probably getting off topic, but it really makes no sense, glad to be an American. I also believe in Satan and he is the most wicked and evil spirit.
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Sociopath's ARE charismatic and have been famous leaders. You should look it up.
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