I just want to know because we saw her looking at the tablets then giving her the drink, did she kill her in revenge or not?
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I think she did, throughout they needed each other and she really loved victor. The show had a streak of meaness and death and it would seem totally fitting with the show and the character that she would.
shareAaah just one thing to link the lady to Victor.
ALl the newspaper cuttings relating to Victor's death.
Unless Margaret destroyed them before she left the house of course.
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I suspect Renwick does know, but he'll never say, unless he truly couldn't make up his mind whether Margaret would actually go through with her thread, but I agree with Smegma's opinion that she did kill her.
shareI think that it is up to us the viewer to formulate our own ending as to what happened hence the ambiguity at the end , it keeps in tone with the style of the sitcom.
shareAs in "was Mr. Swainey's Mum living in the house or a skeleton in the basement."
shareMargaret seemingly met Mr Sweeney's Mum, and when Victor and margaret came over once, she did some kind of code down asking for a chocolate biscuit, I think she was meant to exist, but never sure.
shareNo I don't think she killed him, but certainly wanted to. From previous episodes, Margaret would always be pushed to the brink, they pull back from it, and I think that's what happened here.
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If you can count this as part of the series, there was a Comic Relief special in 2001 where Margaret and Victor are in a hospital visiting a friend. Victor goes off on one of his talks... turns out he's dead and Margaret doesn't acknowledge him.
If Margaret did kill the woman, I would have thought she would be in prison.
Anyway, I think it's reading too much into what is a lovely sitcom.
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Thinking of what the vicar said to Margaret about forgiving, and the "End of the Line" song by Traveling Wilburys that was played in the end, I say she didn't kill the other woman.
"Well its all right, remember to live and let live
Well its all right, the best you can do is forgive"
I agree with ISOL1974 that Margaret remembered what the vicar told her about forgiving and did not kill the woman. Otherwise, why would the writer have inserted the character of the vicar into the plot? Also, I feel it was not in Margaret's nature to do something as drastic as murdering the driver who ran Victor down. That would have been too impetuous a reaction, five months after Victor's death. The most Margaret could have done was to report Glynnis to the police, so the case could be reopened.
shareI love the ambiguity over it.
What's interesting is that Margaret seemed to have made up her mind whether to kill her or not before she heard any kind of explanation. Although she held the glass back, i don't think she ever intended not to give it to that woman - after all, if there was any doubt in her mind, the woman telling her that she did stop and turn back to help Victor surely would have prompted her to think twice about poisoning her. There wasn't a flicker in her eyes.
Personally, I think Margaret just may have killed her. She has it in her. And Margaret was always a bit harsh on Victor - her love for him always seemed a little hidden and undemonstrated. Maybe she wanted to continue in Victor's brand of justice; that "eye for an eye" morality he seemed to have, and thus demonstrate her respect for him that she often didn't express when he was alive.
But then that sigh in the car did seem a little regretful... if she'd regretted poisoning that woman she surely would have ran back in the house to try and do something. It seemed more like regret over not doing anything ... just as she'd said to the vicar earlier - "nobody does anything about anything", and now she's found herself to be no different.
"Those are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others."
I'd like to offer a third possibility. Throughout the show, those long-term characters that fought Victor ultimately grew to become more like him. By the final episode Margaret was arguing on the phone with the solicitor and relishing in an argument with an artist.
I'd like to think that when faced with the options of murder or forgiveness, she instead chose a Victor-style form of revenge. Maybe Margaret locked her in the foyer, or dumped rubbish in her car. Victor was great about making the punishment fit the crime, so I'm sure she would have come up with something more appropriate.
That's a very interesting observation. And with victor and his ways of dealing with things at the forefront of margaret's mind, i'm even more sure she didn't murder that woman. Victor was ultimately a kind man, and it could be argued that margaret had a cruel streak (compare how she and victor reacted to the homeless man living in their shed, for example), so i think at that moment when she had the opportunity to be merciless, she would have rejected the idea knowing that victor would have done so.
shareSimple answer? No she didn't. It is simply NOT possible to kill someone with a couple of paracetamol tablets. A lethal dose would have required that there be more tablets in the glass than orange juice. Even four or five tablets would have made the juice unbearably bitter - it would be impossible for hit and run lady to miss the fact that her drink had been dosed.
Even if Margeret had somehow managed to conceal several handfuls of tablets in the juice, paracetamol overdoses kill you *very slowly* There would be no obvious signs of overdose for several days (except perhaps feeling a bit sick because of the horrible taste), after which the victim would start throwing up all the time. Even then it might not be too late, providing the victim was reasonably healthy beforehand and could find their way to a hospital. Otherwise it takes up to a few weeks, as the liver and kidneys shut down and die forcing the body to resort to trying to push all the poison out of itself any way it can, including as a foul smelling brownish gunge oozing from the sweat glands and skin.
It's a very long, very messy and horrifyingly painful way to die.
It might have actually made for a funnier ending for Margeret to drive away, all smug and satisfied with her vengeance, only to keep on bumping into Glynis again and again and again as she stubbornly refuses to die...
--Myk
If we don't go down the 'real life' route suggested by myk-harwood and sty in TV land where all things are possible and Margaret *did* overdose the woman, why does it follow that she would then be in prison?
The woman's husband and just died and she then killed Victor in a hit and run. That's enough to make anyone suicidal.
If we're assuming that "anything's possible" then I think I'd prefer to imagine that Margeret drove home before going on to hire The A-Team to assassinate her husband's killer.
Or perhaps (this one's even better), she could secretly build a massive, self aware military supercomputer which could then go on to nuke the entire rest of the world, invent time travel and then send back a murderous cyborg to terminate Glynis' mother before she was even born?
Either option seems a bit more plausible to me...
--Myk
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