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Law And Order At It's Best !!!


Which seasons of Law And Order did you enjoy the most and were some of your absolute favorites? Also how would you rate all 20 years of each season of Law And Order? p.s. I know it's much but do the best you can.

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I can't answer it that specifically, but I can say this: 1994-96 had my favorite cast: Waterston, Hennessy, Hill, and Orbach. I think right when Waterston came onboard the show turned up a notch and improved all around, including acting, scripts, etc. I thought Moriarty was stiff and some of the early scripts lacked the je ne sais quoi of the post-Moriarty ones.
After that each season had some classic episodes. After Orbach left in 2004 it all went downhill in my book, but still had some worthwhile episodes.

For who would bear the whips and scorns of Hollywood... (;-p)

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I was watching season 10 this morning and actually teared up TWICE during two consecutive episodes...while running on a treadmill. What a great season, so far...

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They were "Loco Parentis" and "Collision". Both times, near the very end of the episodes, when the perp showed some emotion (the kid bursting into tears and the guy (who heard voices) explaining why he did what he did), I was caught off-guard and felt some empathy for two killers I had despised. I felt bad for them (go figure) and it made me think that the reason some people do what they do is often a lot more complicated than we think. The kid's father DID ruin him, and the bipolar guy WASN'T the monster everyone thought he was.

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The Wire? Please! They screwed that show up especially the last 2 seasons.

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My most favorite seasons are 7 and 8, the ones with McCoy and Ross along with Briscoe and Curtis. Those seasons, along with surrounding Seasons 5, 6, and 9, are a larger group of my favorites.

After Season 9, L&O gradually slid downhill through Season 17, the one which had Nina Cassady, until rebounding upward somewhat, albeit slowly, through the last few years of its run. The show never got back to its peak in the late 1990s but at least it was on an upward trend when it got canceled.

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That's awesome -- seasons 7 and 8 are my favorites too (see comment further down the thread).

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Ditto. In my own words: The McCoy years, ending with Carmichael. I particularly like the detectives during that era as well.

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It's difficult to single out just one season. I enjoy watching the early ones and seeing how police work was successfully done prior to one nation under surveillance. A bonus here was Ben Stone, notably his use of the term "Sir".

One moment that stands out to me was the episode when Lenny was retiring and how Green commented on them getting Blackberries next year and after that Lenny telling him he was putting in his papers.

Seeing as how Joe Fontana was among my favorite detectives (my favorite scenes usually involved the use of the term "authorized") and I liked Ed Green as well, those seasons were always good ones.

A year-by-year rating would take up too much space IMO.

Dean: I am wearing sunglasses at night. You know who does that? No-talent douche bags!

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Actually, Jill Hennessey was in her comfort zone as Claire Kincaid: it was Crossing Jordan in which she was shown to be beyond her depth. I've never really understood the fascination with Angie Harmon, although for once I've FINALLY found a show in which I actually find her equal to the task she's asked to perform in Rizzoli & Isles

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I think season 4 had the best cast, but seasons 1, 6, and 10 had the best quality episodes.

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I agree with you on season 7 being up there, but I think the best episode of that season was Mad Dog.

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Any season with Michael Moriarty, but currently Season 3.

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Every season had great episodes. Enjoyed all of the major players until Season 13--I couldn't stand Fred Thompson. Ick!!! But I stuck with the show until Jerry Orbach left at the end of Season 14. His replacement, Dennis Farina, seemed too harsh by comparison, though in reruns I'm able to tolerate him.

The awful irony is that once they solidified the cast with Linus Roache et al, the writing picked up and I really started to enjoy the show again. So what did the network do? THEY CANCELLED IT. I thought Wolf would have fought a little harder for it, considering he wanted to beat Gunsmoke as the longest-running TV series in history, but he bailed, I guess. None of the actors knew in advance that the end was coming. In my opinion, that's a damned shame. How many shows that have aired since that time have lasted as long with such generally well-sustained quality as Law & Order?

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Let's start with cast. My favorite ensemble cast is that of seasons 7-8 (McCoy, Ross, Briscoe, Curtis). Let me explain that statement.

For me, McCoy and Briscoe define Law & Order -- so much that I have a hard time seeing the Ben Stone era or the post-Lennie era as the same show. (If you disagree, you may as well stop reading now).

Now, Ross and Curtis are not necessarily the most sympathetic characters, but I feel their contrasting personalities bring the best out of McCoy and Briscoe respectively. Logan was perhaps a stronger character than Curtis in vacuo, but I feel Logan's too similar to Briscoe, while Curtis challenges him more. Likewise, Kincaid was an interesting character (and, Oh my God, so drop-dead gorgeous) but I like Ross because she stands up to McCoy more than any other ADA.

I should also mention Green, Carmichael, and Southerlyn, since they all appear within the Briscoe/McCoy era. Green and Southerlyn are both solid, OK characters, but, for me, short on the last ounce of interest (at least until Southerlyn's last-minute lesbian confession). Carmichael I simply cannot stand, I'm afraid. I'm not sure if it's the Southern-fried stick-em-all-in-jail conservatism or the vocal fry -- I have to mute the TV when she's on. Sorry.

Of seasons 7 and 8, I feel that 7 has the stronger writing.There are so many outstanding scripts in season 7, including my all-time favorites: "I.D." and "Survivor" (you can probably tell that I'm more into wit and elegance than hard-hitting realism). Honorable mention should go to "Causa Mortis", "Double Blind", "Deadbeat", "Legacy", "Menace", "Passion", "Past Imperfect", and the entire Hollywood trilogy of "D-Girl", "Turnaround" and "Showtime".

Basically, in season 7 outstanding episodes are the norm. I could pick a random episode and a random line from the script of that episode, and there's a pretty good chance it would be worthy of a "Memorable Quotes" mention in IMDB. Excellent acting and writing make this by far the best season for me.

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"Green was a much more complex character than Curtis, who was a very stereotypical Hispanic cop. He was hot tempered, conservative catholic who acted like family was everything but cheated on his wife and was somewhat of a ladies man. "

Sounds pretty "complex" to me.

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"I know you love him"

Umm -- no you don't.

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"Whatever, didn't you say the best seasons are 6-9?"

Yes. That doesn't imply that I "love Curtis". The only person I see getting defensive here is you :)

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Let's start with cast. My favorite ensemble cast is that of seasons 7-8 (McCoy, Ross, Briscoe, Curtis). Let me explain that statement.
Not a big fan of either Curtis (Benjamin Bratt) or Ross (Carey Lowell), but certainly they're capable actors, and this was during the peak of the series.


For me, McCoy and Briscoe define Law & Order -- so much that I have a hard time seeing the Ben Stone era or the post-Lennie era as the same show. (If you disagree, you may as well stop reading now).
Totally agree on this point, and said so earlier. McCoy (Sam Waterston) and Briscoe (Jerry Orbach) became L & O from the first episodes they were in. Yes, 1994-2004 was the peak of the show mainly because of these two, but also because of superior scripts.

Now, Ross and Curtis are not necessarily the most sympathetic characters, but I feel their contrasting personalities bring the best out of McCoy and Briscoe respectively. Logan was perhaps a stronger character than Curtis in vacuo, but I feel Logan's too similar to Briscoe, while Curtis challenges him more. Likewise, Kincaid was an interesting character (and, Oh my God, so drop-dead gorgeous) but I like Ross because she stands up to McCoy more than any other ADA.
Kincaid (Jill Hennessy) who was my own favorite asst. to the asst. DA, but DDG? Let's not get carried away.'
I agree that Curtis was a good contrast to Briscoe, so that chemistry worked. As I said I find Ross underwhelming.

I should also mention Green, Carmichael, and Southerlyn, since they all appear within the Briscoe/McCoy era. Green and Southerlyn are both solid, OK characters, but, for me, short on the last ounce of interest (at least until Southerlyn's last-minute lesbian confession). Carmichael I simply cannot stand, I'm afraid. I'm not sure if it's the Southern-fried stick-em-all-in-jail conservatism or the vocal fry -- I have to mute the TV when she's on. Sorry.
I originally felt the same about Carmichael (Angie Harmon), but she's an acquired taste, which I've done. Her good looks and no BS demeanor grows on you. Never saw the Southerlyn (Elisabeth Röhm) episode where she went Lesbo, but she's easily the most gorgeous actress of the series, and certainly a sympathetic character/personality.

Of seasons 7 and 8, I feel that 7 has the stronger writing.There are so many outstanding scripts in season 7, including my all-time favorites: "I.D." and "Survivor" (you can probably tell that I'm more into wit and elegance than hard-hitting realism). Honorable mention should go to "Causa Mortis", "Double Blind", "Deadbeat", "Legacy", "Menace", "Passion", "Past Imperfect", and the entire Hollywood trilogy of "D-Girl", "Turnaround" and "Showtime".
All good ones.

Basically, in season 7 outstanding episodes are the norm. I could pick a random episode and a random line from the script of that episode, and there's a pretty good chance it would be worthy of a "Memorable Quotes" mention in IMDB. Excellent acting and writing make this by far the best season for me.
I'd say this season is one of the best, but would have to say the whole period of 1994-2004 was the peak in general. Also you forgot to mention Schiff (Steven Hill), a great actor and quintessential DA character, as well as Van Buren (S. Epatha Merkerson) quintessential Detective Squad Chief!

For who would bear the whips and scorns of Hollywood... (;-p)

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Never saw the Southerlyn (Elisabeth Röhm) episode where she went Lesbo, but she's easily the most gorgeous actress of the series, and certainly a sympathetic character/personality.


There was no such episode. They never showed enough of Serena's private life to deduce her sexual orientation. That's why the "Is it because I'm a lesbian?" line was so hilarious.

Anyway, I disagree 100% with your "easily the most gorgeous actress of the series" assertion. She's certainly the blondest, but IMO that's all she has going for her, and the previous three ADAs (Assistant ADAs?) were all much more attractive. I also found her to have no discernible personality apart from whininess.

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A woman doesn't "Go LESBO"...like buying a pair of designer shoes. Dick Wolf should have handled the character arc better.








I do hope he won't upset Henry...

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