At my opinion Robert Englund is only actor how has become Erik as Gaston Leroux writed it. Even tough the movie itself is not so faithful as you would wish, with all that crap of seling souls and being immortal. But Robert is Erik. The insane person how does not let anything to come between him and the woman he loves. I would love to hear you´re comment´s. How is you´re Erik? Dark like Lon Chaney? Tradgig like Charles Dance? Sexy like Gerald Butler? How?
Sexy and Hot lime Gerry. God, he is sooo sexy as the Phantom, especially during Don Juan/POoint of No Return. Man, emmy is soooo l;ucky to get gerry's hands go up and down her body through that scene.
I think Englund's version is too bed! The screenplay is nearly good, but it think they show Erik as a villain, because in the turf Erik is more a darkest hero. I think Charles Dance, Gerard Burtler and Maximillian Schell, are the best Eriks of all Phantom films yet!
My Erik is a mixture of the manipulative and "4-D" Kay Erik, the slightly insane Leroux Erik, with the voice of Crawford and the sexuality of Butler. But as for his disfugurement? I don't think I've seen any actor pull off what Erik is truely supposed to be like. That's just me though.
Mm..hard for me to put my finger on it. I found him to be sort of an adorable spaz, really. Well, that's sugar-coating it. I liked him in the books--certainly a psychopath, but an incredibly amiable one who /seemed/ like the most normal character, for all that he looked like a rotting corpse. I mean, the whole "I'm going shopping now!" bit when the Persian hunted him down after Christine's first appearance. And ventriliquism to try and distract Christine from Rauol. I mean, really! He was adorable, like a puppy or child. And also psychopathic. But really, he did give warnings. He was playing the game fairly--it was just a different game than everyone else was playing.
If I've really gotta pick my poison, I'll go with Gerry Butler though. Dark, sexy, full of snark, and with that lip-quiver. Heh... And youngish. Crawford was just a little too mystic, though a much better singer/showman.
Mm..hard for me to put my finger on it. I found him to be sort of an adorable spaz, really. Well, that's sugar-coating it. I liked him in the books--certainly a psychopath, but an incredibly amiable one who /seemed/ like the most normal character, for all that he looked like a rotting corpse. I mean, the whole "I'm going shopping now!" bit when the Persian hunted him down after Christine's first appearance. And ventriliquism to try and distract Christine from Rauol. I mean, really! He was adorable, like a puppy or child. And also psychopathic. But really, he did give warnings. He was playing the game fairly--it was just a different game than everyone else was playing.
Lol an "adorable spaz"...love it! Leroux Erik all the way for me...! So, your description there made me smile :) I totally get what you're saying, here.
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I don't think Erik should be sexy in a Gerard Butler sort of way. (Actually I found Butler somewhat repulsive. The ALW movie made me root for Raoul for the first time ever.)
Well I think Robert Englund's verison is VERY close to the book. He pulls off the subtle sensuality that The Phantom exudes (or all that you would expect for man who hides in the shadows) and is still VERY puppy love dog around Christine. But has to be manical every once and awhile, OK alot but it is a horror movie but it still mangages to be very haunting and Beutiful somehow (I think it's the score :D) I mean com'on! They even keep him playing the viloin in the graveyard.
Raoul sux, even as Patrick Wilson, especially Patrick Wilson.
Gerry Butler is a G.
but none of the movies and plays stayed true 2 the novel!
i think it should b like hunchback of notre dame w/ quasimodo and that 1 gypsy chick, and kinda end like the boradway musical of PoTo, where he died @ the end of a broken heart.
but still follow the lon chaney plot, except not kill him like a bad guy, but as the book, die of a broken heart going 2 an opera, and not knowing wut actually happened 2 Christine and Raoul.
For some reason I never found Erik hideous.. If I saw his face up close and personal, I wouldn't 'draw back in fear', I don't know, lot's of things make up for his disfigurment. His voice, body language, etc..
For some reason I didn't find Robert Englund all that appealing as Erik, now Gerard Butler and some others as well, those are Phantoms, well IMO though..
My ideal Erik would be mostly a mix of Englund, and Lon Chaney. Englund came closest to the novel, performance-wise, but he never really showed any sign that he was struggling, like Chaney's did. Funny, however, that both of them suffered from the same thing: the ending was altered in both cases so that they'd appear more monstrous.