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Daniel should have been disqualified.

posted 2 years ago by Chris822cats (393)
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Daniel did something that no other competitor ever did, he attacked a member of the audience during his final match. Snake was giving Daniel a little harmless heckling, when Daniel grabbed his wrist and swung it out from under him. This caused an unprepared snake to slam into the mat, which could have caused broken ribs. Furthermore swinging a non-competitor's arm like that, who isn't in fighting shape, could tear the arm from the socket. This should have been an automatic disqualification.

[–] MrBuzzcut (54) 2 years ago

And Snake likely landed in a puddle of Whineielle's urine, the presence of which should also have disqualified our "hero".

Disgusting.

[–] Chris822cats (393) 2 years ago

Disgusting indeed. That certainly ruined Snake's prospects of finding a hot date at the tournament.

[–] wearsalan (5554) 2 years ago

That certainly ruined Snake's prospects of finding a hot date at the tournament.

Because we see throughout the movie what a ladies man Snake is...oh hang on, we don't.

[–] cruisin109 (2004) 2 years ago

Snake is like the Beatles. Women want him and men want to be him.

[–] wearsalan (5554) 2 years ago

and yet we saw no evidence of this

[–] cruisin109 (2004) 2 years ago

You wish you were as cool as snake.

[–] wearsalan (5554) 2 years ago

No, Snake isn't cool. He's a Dickhead.

[–] cruisin109 (2004) 2 years ago

Says you who is jealous of Snake. Snake represents everything you can never be…. no wonder you have stayed away from LA your whole life.

[–] wearsalan (5554) 2 years ago

Snake represents everything I would never want to be. He's a lackey to Barnes.

[–] cruisin109 (2004) 2 years ago

No Silver told Barnes to hang with Snake because if you’re gonna be a bad boy in LA Snakes the boy to bad with.

[–] wearsalan (5554) 2 years ago

Bad as in a twat.

[–] cruisin109 (2004) 2 years ago

Name one person badder than snake. You can’t!

[–] wearsalan (5554) 2 years ago

Here's three. Kreese, Mike Barnes and Dutch.

[–] cruisin109 (2004) 2 years ago

They didn’t live in LA though. They lived in the Valley.

[–] wearsalan (5554) 2 years ago

The San Fernando Valley, known locally as The Valley, is an urbanized valley in Los Angeles, California. It is the main setting for The Karate Kid franchise ...

Guess that's another loss for you chump!

[–] Chris822cats (393) 2 years ago

Nobody who lives in LA proper considers the San Fernando Valley as LA.

[–] NRC123 (2133) 2 years ago

Just another example of Wears being clueless about American culture.

[–] wearsalan (5554) 2 years ago

Me being 'clued up" about American culture has nothing to do with San Fernandez Valley being an urbanised region of LA. If you disagree talk to your government.

[–] NRC123 (2133) 2 years ago

has nothing to do with San Fernandez Valley being an urbanised region of LA.

Lol. It’s San Fernando. You’ve been dreaming about Freddy too much.

[–] wearsalan (5554) 2 years ago

Doesn't change the fact that it is an urbanised region of LA does it grammar nazi?

[–] NRC123 (2133) 2 years ago

You’re lecturing us about it’s geographical status but can’t even get the name right. Typical Wears.

[–] wearsalan (5554) 2 years ago

Grammar nazis only response to being wrong.

[–] NRC123 (2133) 2 years ago

It wasn’t a grammatical error. You didn’t even know the name of the valley that you were trying to educate us about. It says a lot about you.

[–] wearsalan (5554) 2 years ago

Seeing as I say San Fernando Valley in my first reply regarding this, then you are wrong, and you are a grammar nazi.
That says a lot about you.

[–] wearsalan (5554) 2 years ago

cruisin109 doesn't live in LA

[–] cruisin109 (2004) 2 years ago

Maybe urinating was part of Miayagis kata? The secret sauce if you like.

[–] MrBuzzcut (54) 2 years ago

Miyagi's secret sauce was 80 proof sake!

[–] cruisin109 (2004) 2 years ago

Yeah he was getting drunk while forcing children to do slave labor on his property. This was a moral failure to say nothing of getting a minor drunk.

[–] wearsalan (5554) 2 years ago

Silvers was 100% proof Snake

[–] wearsalan (5554) 2 years ago

Snake shouldn't have been there in the first place.....competitors and coaches only.

Barnes should have been disqualified before the match started for refusing to bow to his opponent.

[–] cruisin109 (2004) 2 years ago

What’s worse…. refusing to bow or attacking an audience member? Moreover why would anyone bow to someone who would attack innocent bystanders??

[–] millsey72 (10285) 2 years ago

Has wearsalan ever won a debate on here in regards to the Karate Kid/Cobra Kai universe? Time after time, you and Chris822cats hammer him into submission with facts, which are all backed up. Why does this guy continue to argue with you?

[–] Chris822cats (393) 2 years ago

Has wearsalan ever won a debate on here in regards to the Karate Kid/Cobra Kai universe?

Just one comes to mind. I think he successfully argued that Daniel is an idiot, as the fans had no rebuttal for that one. He claims our beloved movie has bad writing. If that is true, why waste time on a so-called "badly written movie"? Let us fans enjoy it without raining on our parade.

Why does this guy continue to argue with you?

Beats me. When his arguments fail he resorts to personal attacks on fans of the movie. Not cool.

[–] wearsalan (5554) 2 years ago

But you are not simply enjoying it, you are re-writing it to suit yourselves. you want to talk about raining on peoples parade, tell your mate NRC123 to end the feud...I'm game!

[–] NRC123 (2133) 2 years ago

You can’t back out now. We’re meeting in NY later this month.

[–] Sparky123 (1679) 2 years ago

Is wears Alan your best mate really?

[–] NRC123 (2133) 2 years ago

We’re scheduled to fight for the soul of the board. He wanted to do the Empire State Building but Central Park would be a better fit.

When this is over his dog won’t recognize him.

[–] cruisin109 (2004) 2 years ago

It’s gonna be a fight to the death. You should fight on top of the Empire State Building and block off the entrance to the observation deck so no once can intervene. “WA…. this no tournament… this for real!”

[–] NRC123 (2133) 2 years ago

He’ll show up. He’s to dumb not to.

[–] wearsalan (5554) 2 years ago

I'll show up because I'm going there anyway. You won't show up because you are all wind and piss.

[–] NRC123 (2133) 2 years ago

What was the date again? Did we agree on Central Park?

[–] wearsalan (5554) 2 years ago

29th September and I told you the Empire State Building.

[–] NRC123 (2133) 2 years ago

So it is.

Don’t even think about backing down, or this…. This will all seem like a happy memory compared to what we do with you.

[–] wearsalan (5554) 2 years ago

WE?
So you need back up eh, coward?

[–] NRC123 (2133) 2 years ago

While you go rock climbing down the side of the building I’ll pull your rope up and leave you stranded at the bottom of West 33rd street until you sign the agreement.

[–] wearsalan (5554) 2 years ago

Time to stop talking shit

[–] NRC123 (2133) 2 years ago

You’ll have about 12 minutes till you get mugged.

[–] wearsalan (5554) 2 years ago

What part of time to stop talking shit didn't you understand?

[–] millsey72 (10285) 2 years ago

You can't show up and fight anyone. Its too dangerous and you will get hurt badly.

[–] wearsalan (5554) 2 years ago

I'm a 7th dan blackbelt in Karate. The only one getting hurt (if they even show up) is NRC123/cruisin109.

[–] millsey72 (10285) 2 years ago

Damm! I certainly won't be there

[–] Chris822cats (393) 2 years ago

Someone with those credentials would never physically fight someone over a disagreement on a movie. Karate, like all other martial arts teaches restraint and self discipline. Unless you belong to a Daniel-san style dojo whose sole purpose is to seek revenge on those with whom they disagree. I'm calling this bluff right here right now.

[–] wearsalan (5554) 2 years ago

Karate, like all other martial arts teaches restraint and self discipline.

Wrong. You missed the part where if attacked a Karate-ka responds. NRC123 attacked. Remember it was him who originally claimed to have flown to the UK twice to fight me in romefan123's stead. He continually threatens to come to my dojo and fight me in front if my students. He even said he was coming to where I walk my dog to fight me. There comes a point where bullshitters like NRC123 get called. He has had the opportunity to end this feud many times over but carries on. I'm game so don't blame me for this.

I will be at the Empire State Building at 1pm on the 29th September. I am in New York from the 26th - the 30th September, so if you are calling bullshit on anybody being there then you will be calling it on your man NRC123.

[–] NRC123 (2133) 2 years ago

You’ve slandered the Kai’s good name for too long and deserve to face the repercussions. You crossed a line when you mocked Robert Garrison’s (Tommy) death and it’s time for your comeuppance.

I will be at the Empire State Building at 1pm on the 29th September.

Gotcha.

[–] wearsalan (5554) 2 years ago

See you then....if you have the balls.

[–] wearsalan (5554) 2 years ago

I was giving you the chance.

[–] Chris822cats (393) 2 years ago

Barnes had legitimate reason to refuse to bow because Daniel threatened his life earlier in the movie. I believe the words were, "this guy is dead!" After that remark Jessica started to keep her distance, as she didn't want to be associated with someone who is making death threats in public.

Attacking an audience member is far worse. Daniel brought a fan who shouted out at Barnes, "you're dirty Barnes, he's going to get you because you are dirty!" Yet, Barnes did not put his hands on a fan, who had the right to voice his opinion on the match.

[–] wearsalan (5554) 2 years ago

Barnes had legitimate reason to refuse to bow

Wrong. You enter the arena you obey the rules of etiquette.

Daniel threatened his life earlier in the movie. I believe the words were, "this guy is dead!

Haha! Seriously.

Daniel brought a fan who shouted out at Barnes, "you're dirty Barnes, he's going to get you because you are dirty!"

Daniel brought no one. That member of the public had eyes and unlike you he used them.

[–] Chris822cats (393) 2 years ago

How do we know Barnes had a stiff back from getting assaulted by Miyagi? Barnes is a "make no excuses" kind of guy and would never complain to the ref about a stiff back. He simply couldn't bow even if he wanted to do so.

[–] wearsalan (5554) 2 years ago

Clutching at straws again, but hey I'll play.

HOW DO YOU KNOW HE HAD A STIFF BACK?

Oh that's right, you pulled that one out of your arse.

[–] wearsalan (5554) 2 years ago

What’s worse…. refusing to bow or attacking an audience member?

Well kicking someone in the groin on purpose is worse than any of that.

Moreover why would anyone bow to someone who would attack innocent bystanders??

It is irrelevant what you think of your opponent, you must bow. But then you wouldn't understand would you?

[–] cruisin109 (2004) 2 years ago

Attacking an audience member is worse than anything you do to your opponent… don’t be so obtuse. Besides that kick to the groin was an accident.

[–] wearsalan (5554) 2 years ago

You have no idea what you are talking about. consider your opinion dismissed.

[–] cruisin109 (2004) 2 years ago

If you were the ref, how would you address a fighter attacking the audience?

[–] wearsalan (5554) 2 years ago

I would have addressed Barnes first before it even got to that stage. I would also have addressed the fact that Snake shouldn't have even been there.

[–] cruisin109 (2004) 2 years ago

Any penalty for attacking a crowd member?

[–] wearsalan (5554) 2 years ago

There are no rules regarding this, but there is a rule regarding a member of a competitors group entering the arena...disqualification of said competitor.

[–] cruisin109 (2004) 2 years ago

Okay so I can enter a tournament with you as the ref and I can start attacking audience members and you won’t do anything about it?

[–] wearsalan (5554) 2 years ago

You can't enter anything, you are not karate-ka.

Furthermore that isn't what I said. Add to that, you are twisting the facts here. If a member of the public enters the arena and confronts a competitor (which is basically what Snake does) they are the one at fault. If it turns out that said member of the public is part of the competitors opponents group, then the opponent could be disqualified by the referee.

This had been discussed ad infinitum and yet you still go around the houses trying to forge a win and failing miserably.

[–] cruisin109 (2004) 2 years ago

All snake did was ask if Daniel was okay after he caught a kick in his family jewels. Daniel then attacked him which was out of line.

[–] wearsalan (5554) 2 years ago

Stop lying. Snake entered the arena when he had no right to and continued to berate Daniel.