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"Valuing white-owned property over a black man's life"


Spike Lee is quoted as saying that those who sympathize with Sal "value a white man's property more than a black man's life."

I guess the fact that Raheem was choking Sal to death before the cops showed up doesn't register. By implication, this means that to Spike Lee, a black man's radio is more valuable than a white man's life.

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Logic is of no use on a racist puke like Lee.

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Then, he should have been arrested and charged with attempted murder.

George Carlin: It's all bullsh-t and it's bad for ya.

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Wasn't it the OPPOSITE ? Didn't Radio Rahem valued his ghettoblaster over a white man's life ?

Because when a massive muscle man try to strangle you, there are great chances you'll DIE in a very short time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQ4y7GPeFBY

By the way, i used to work with my old man in his boutique. My stepfather. A great, black, bigger than life man.

I garanty that if a thug grabbed bim from his desk to strangle him, whaterver his race, religion, color or belief, i would STAB this son of a B... DEAD before calling the police.

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You will not find one person who sympathizes with Radio Raheem because Sal broke his radio. That is a complete fabrication. The sympathy for him is for being unnecessarily choked to death. There is no argument that his death was unnecessary. That is why the other cop screams "NO! That's enough!" and they high-tail it out of there leaving Sal to fend for himself.

George Carlin: It's all bullsh-t and it's bad for ya.

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Did Rahem kill Sal?

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People get into fights all the time. The cops are there to come and break up the fights- not KILL a young man. I guess I hold the cops to a higher standard- them being trained and all.

This was NOT out of the ordinary for the cops to come and beat/kill young Black men in inner-city areas and cover it up.

NOW we are being forced to SEE it- where before we were not. Hardly a week goes by where cops haven't killed some young Black man and NOW it's being caught on camera since we all have cells phones.

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I've never met a racist person, just a scared and uneducated person.
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A more accurate statement:

"Valuing a white man's life over the life of a black thug that provoked that white man and then tried to choke that white man to death over a busted radio."


If the cops had arrived minutes later, Sal would have been choked to death by Radio Raheem over a busted radio. What would the values be then, Spike Lee?

Did you notice that Spike Lee also tries to cinematically equate the idiots attacking the firemen (after Radio died) with peaceful civil rights protesters in Birmingham, Alabama in 1963 who got sprayed by fire hoses? But in the movie, these weren't peaceful protesters. They were jerks attacking firemen, thus threatening not only the firemen, but the whole block if the fired ended up spreading.

Good movie overall, but the last scene had too much PC baloney.

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"If the cops had arrived minutes later, Sal would have been choked to death by Radio Raheem over a busted radio. What would the values be then, Spike Lee?"

Then, Radio Raheem would have been arrested and probably convicted for manslaughter since it wasn't premeditated. Unfortunately, certain people seem to have forgotten that that is what the police are supposed to do. Not execute unarmed people on the street because they may have committed a crime. They are supposed to be an extension of the judicial system not a death squad

George Carlin: It's all bullsh-t and it's bad for ya.

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And what would the values have been?

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The value is then Sal's life, not his property over his or anyone else's life. But that's not what happened.

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Sal did no crime, other than over-reacting to provocation. Radio provoked, instigated a crime, and tried to murder somebody.

The thug gets reduced sympathy. To do otherwise is to validate his thuggish actions, and create a false equivalency.

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So you endorse the police executing unarmed people for committing crimes instead of arresting them so they can be tried in court? Sounds like thuggish action to me. Sounds like the kind of action we fought wars against. But hey, let's just throw that out the window so we can feel good that a "thug" is dead. I hate to break this to you, but according to the laws we currently have in the US - the result of those wars I mentioned - even a "thug" has human rights and the right to due process. I know people like you would love to have those rights taken away from others while you get to preserve them for yourself. But that ain't happening. Just ask your President.

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Who said anything about condoning unjustified police killings? Or liking Trump? Or taking away people's rights?

Ya got it wrong.

What I dislike is thugs that threaten, hurt, and try to kill innocent persons. Maybe you didn't mind Radio. Maybe Spike Lee saw him as quasi-heroic. But a lot of us don't agree. We see him as a thug, and give less sympathy.

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Did you just learn the word "sympathy"? Because you keep bringing it up. I never said anything about him deserving "sympathy" or being "heroic". I'm talking about his rights as a human being. Again, I'm sorry but even people you don't like deserve the same rights as you. You don't only have deserve civil rights if you're someone to be sympathized with. Put that belief back in the orifice you pulled it out of.

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Nice to see you resort to angry insults. Sorry, but I disagree with the self-righteous PC blather that assigns disgusting equivalencies between non-thugs, and the violent thugs that try to kill them and end up dead.

But you are entitled to your opinion. No need to insult you.




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Well, golly gee, I guess I'm just one of those potty-mouth thugs that don't get no sympathy from good ol' folks like you. I'm hip to that "thug" stuff so save your clutching of your pearls over insults.

And unfortunately for you, that "self-righteous PC blather" is written into our Constitution. It's called the 14th Amendment. "No agency of the State, or of the officers or agents by whom its powers are exerted, shall deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." Yes, that includes us "thugs", too, tough guy. Unless you'd like to show me where exactly in there it allows violations of the right to due process, you can save your self-righteous pro-totalitarian police state blather.

George Carlin: It's all bullsh-t and it's bad for ya.

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So in other words you want all cops to be Batman

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Agreed, the black people in this film behaved horribly. If you have a problem with a restaurant owner then, you know, don't go there.

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"If you have a problem with a restaurant owner then, you know, don't go there."

I think maybe the point of the movie and the mindset of blacks is that they don't want us there in any way: whites, asians, anyone more successful than them in legal ways. For that, we can truly thank this movie. Problem is that we all know this, we have all learned this in real life, so the movie isn't needed at all. I suppose it might be gratifying for blacks, being so close to their hateful mindset.

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Maybe i do but if it was a White Trash Thug destroying a black man's property i would value the black man's property over the white man's life so piss off Spike Lee

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"I guess the fact that Raheem was choking Sal to death before the cops showed up doesn't register."
And, IIRC, the blacks escalated any situation each and every time. Sal was the protagonist, the father figure trying to deal with these awful children.

You know, old British explorers wrote down the behaviours of the African and how pointless it was trying to teach him morals, let alone any useful knowledge.

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