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Exact same plot as Match Point!


Spoiler: The talk at the end with the eye doctor and woody was exactly the plot to match point, where he gets away with murder, a rich man, and moves on .. no 'justice' etc... I found that very interesting that he would basically remake this movie again in the 2000s.

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A similar plot, but not exactly the same. This film deals more with the philosophical ideas of guilt and God allowing evil or evil acts to go unpunished. There is none of that in Match Point. It is more of a suspense film that follows the detectives attempts to solve the murder.

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Not exactly the same. There is the same theme of the good suffering and the wicked triumphing, but in Match Point, he introduces the idea of the randomness of events; ie, the ring bouncing back so that someone else is inculpated for Nola's murder. In C and M, fate hinged on the incompetence of the police to uncover Dolores' murderer. This is the idea of the banality of evil. Woody also explores the theme of the power of spirituality to triumph over misfortune, illustrated by the rabbi sustained by his belief in God. He is serene and happy because of his faith, which may or may not be based on something that doesn't exist.

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It is similar to Match Point in a way, but there are some differences:
1. In Crimes, Judah doesn't commit the murder of his mistress himself, in MP, Chris does.
2. Crimes takes place in NYC, MP is in London.
3. In Crimes, Judah's affair is already happening at the beginning of the film, in MP, the affair starts and develops during the film.
4. The murder in Crimes takes place a lot earlier than it does in MP.

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Nobody in this thread seems to have understood the thematic thrust of Crimes.... This is a film that intertwines the two great emotional tragedies of life - to be loved and not love (Judah) and to love and be not loved in return (Cliff). These are balanced in an almost Shakespearean way by the fortune and misfortune that fate rains down on the two protagonists. Judah acts to protect his saintly reputation by destroying the person who loved him most (and succeeds). Cliff is, emotionally and professionally destroyed in trying to retain his high moral position in the face of unprincipled power (Lester) and fickle woman (Halley).

The re-use of part of the plot in Match Point isn't important, IMHO, just Woody continuing his slow but inexorable decline, from one of his greatest masterpiece (this film).

Keep watching the masterpieces....

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