It started out extremely strong and could have been an interesting open-ended portrayal with all the various angles, instead it finally went into a Warren Commission apology. Second half had zero about Oswald's connections to extreme-right wingers or the Cuba Project contractors. The facts were known when the episode aired and are absent, along with the implications of the brother Robert Oswald and others' comments that Lee was not really a Marxist or a right-winger, but frequently playing roles as part of his spy wannabe or spy hobbyist fixation. Whether he did the shooting alone, had help, or something else, to leave out such established facts, the government's motivation for destroying the document trail out of their own fear about what his affiliations might reveal -- this is an injustice to history. And the lack of open-endedness is frankly lazy and artless.
In 1993 the best book was called Case closed by some author, i thonk gerald Posner, perhaps the writers chose to go off of that book or more likely they took poetic license to fit it in. Two hour story arc. On the NBC epic show. Lots of times in the show Sam tiries to change history and fails. Like on the JFK episode. I think the hologram explains that if Sam made a difference and killed oswald , then Jackie would have been killed instead. Also, Sam failed to keep his dad from dieing. On that episode where he sang , "imagine" to his little sitter and she cried. At that point Sam learned (and the viewer) that if he was to change things whenever he himself wants it may cause chaos So instead he just lept around doing things to make right not for his own selfish things and wants. But for all humans. Sam was the most altruistic character ever on the Telly.
I think the hologram explains that if Sam made a difference and killed oswald , then Jackie would have been killed instead.
The idea was, Al informed Sam that in the "original history," both JFK and Jackie were shot. By leaping out of Oswald and into the secret service agent, who jumped on the convertible and took a bullet to the shoulder (as the agent did in real life) he saved Jackie; and created the "new" history where Jackie survived, that we the viewer know. In essence, we're living in an alternate timeline created by Sam Becket....
Fantastic idea for a movie. Terrible idea for a proctologist.
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By leaping out of Oswald and into the secret service agent, who jumped on the convertible and took a bullet to the shoulder (as the agent did in real life) he saved Jackie;
Two out of three things are correct here, that Clint Hill did leap onto the convertible and was credited with saving Mrs. Kennedy's life, though whether by keeping her from falling, shielding her from more potential shooting, or both, I am not sure, but he was decorated for it. Neither he nor any other Secret Service agents, though, were at all injured in the attack on Kennedy's car. The only casualties were Kennedy, Governor Connally, and a very slight injury inflicted on a bystander. http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/tague.htm reply share
This episode was a self-serving exercise on Donald Bellisario's part (and indeed he inserted himself as a young man into the episode). Bellisario did serve in the military, apparently met Oswald while he was serving and formed his own opinions of the man which he wanted to preach in this episode. That's why it ends up coming across as lazy and artless.
Regarding the assassination of John F. Kennedy, I go back and forth on that. Yes, there is ample evidence that plenty of individuals and groups with massive motives wanted Kennedy dead, and some interesting coincidences beginning with how many of these people were in Dallas that day. For those who believe in a government conspiracy regarding UFOs (and for those who don't, Lord help your poor innocent souls ), it's interesting that Kennedy is the only president since the coverups began to demand full disclosure. Ten days after doing so, he was dead. If that had anything to do with it, he wouldn't be the first or the last, which is one of many reasons the government cannot make full disclosure.
There are also indications that shots were fired from behind a fence which would have been in front of Kennedy at the time (gunshots heard from there, suspicious activity seen, etc.) Now, there is no indication (proven) that any shots fired from the front actually hit him--but isn't it interesting that if Oswald would have missed, someone else was perhaps ready to do the job? Not to mention the autopsy was botched in the first place, a lot of materials are missing from it and JFK's brain hasn't been accounted for since 1965.
That being said, there is a lot of evidence for Oswald acting alone, a few examples of which are:
1. If the C. I. A. and whoever else wanted JFK dead, why would they recruit a nutjob like Oswald?
2. How would they even get in touch with Oswald to let him know where and when to carry out the hit? He was there because he already worked in the building! (Granted, he knew enough in advance to pick up the rifle from its hiding place--it's not as if he kept a rifle at work all the time.)
3. Any advanced organization planning the crime of the century wouldn't supply their hitman with the crappiest gun available--one with which an expert marksman can barely fire that number of shots in that amount of time, (which has been tried numerous times and shown to be possible, but with great skill required), let alone with that degree of deadly accuracy (two hits out of three shots--the third not only fatal but quite devastating in terms of damage).
So, okay, you've almost got me convinced of Oswald acting alone, with maybe someone else lying in wait working separately from Oswald, and maybe even attempting to shoot Kennedy at the same time, but not hitting him.
BUT--AND I CANNOT BELIEVE HOW COMPLETELY I DIDN'T SEE THIS UNTIL THE OTHER DAY--
AFTER SEEING THE ZAPRUDER FILM COUNTLESS TIMES (and I need hardly say Warning: Graphic, right? I remember the newscaster the first time it was on TV, "For God's sake, get Granny and the kids out of the room!"--) I guess I just spent my time trying to see which way he was falling, to tell where the shot may have come from, instead of looking closely at its effect.
I SIMPLY MUST ASK:
How is the film showing a COMPLETELY different wound than the autopsy photos?
Film shows him getting blasted in the side of the head in front of the right ear, with almost certainly some damage to the face and NONE to the back of the head! Autopsy photos show undamaged face and extensive damage on top of and back of the head, behind the ear!
Sent the following message to Brad Meltzer, who did the Lost History program seeking JFK's missing brain:
Brad--
When I say, "if everyone was truthful," it seems to me the entire "it's at Arlington" theory rests with this John Metzler, the cemetery superintendent who oversaw every aspect of the 1967 reinterment.
1. Nothing can have gone in the casket or the vault because the vault was sealed in 1963 and never reopened.
2. Nothing can have been put in the new grave before it was dug. (Duh.)
3. Nothing can have been put in the new grave, or the old one either for that matter, during the ceremony, or after it while people were still around--too many witnesses.
4. The only way anything can have gone in the new grave is if it was dug well before the ceremony, Bobby Kennedy (assuming he had the brain), paid this Metzler something to keep quiet while he put something in the bottom of the grave, then covered it so no one would know anything was down there. One would have to ascertain when the new grave was dug and try to account for Bobby's whereabouts the whole time it was open, assuming he didn't assign this vital job to someone else. (Not Teddy...please!)
5. If you don't believe in conspiracy theories, Bobby Kennedy is practically the only person with any motive to take the brain. Now, you don't suppose he just told whoever was in on it (Teddy, possibly Steve Smith and a choice few others), "Let's just keep the damn thing around, wait till the next family member dies" (supposing that to be one of his parents) "and put it in with them," meaning it is at Arlington--with him!
6. If you don't believe in conspiracy theories--and I don't want to, but I'd like to see anyone explain the discrepancies just between the film and the autopsy photos, along with about a million other things--there are far too many suspects to mention and I don't want to "go there." No one can prove Bobby took it--and if anyone (surviving) knows about it (his widow Ethel, and only surviving sister Jean would be among the few if any), they don't want to besmirch his memory and will take it to their own graves.
7. It would be undesirable to see people go poking around the grave as they did with Lincoln's, to the extent that his son had to have him encased in cement, but perhaps at some future date ground-penetrating technology will be sophisticated enough to tell if anything extra is in JFK or RFK's graves.
I remember seeing the headline "President Kennedy's Brain is Missing" at least 40 years ago and finding it pretty wild. Personally, I enjoyed your presentation of the case. You showed remarkable restraint not to show (or even mention) the brain-stealing scene from Young Frankenstein.
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In all seriousness, I would think the Kennedy family would WANT. THIS. SOLVED! Not only to know the answers for themselves, but if you had every crackpot on the street approaching you claiming to have "figured out the solution," wouldn't you want to be able to say, "It's been solved; case closed." It just adds to the conspiracy theories that they did not launch their own investigations into the deaths of JFK and RFK--makes it look as if "they didn't want to be next."
YOU GUYS, SERIOUS CONSPIRACY HERE!!! I posted my messages from above, starting with the one to Brad Meltzer, to H2's and Brad Meltzer's Facebook pages and THEY KEEP GETTING DELETED! IT IS NOT A MISTAKE, THEY WERE THERE AND DISAPPEARED AT LEAST TWICE! The one to H2 literally disappeared as quick as I could turn around! I am now copying them to my own Facebook page and see if they stay up!
After eight hours, the repost on Brad Meltzer's page is still up. Posted the following on H2's page and it's still up. The conspiracists have not won......yet!
H2, WHY do my posts regarding evidence about the assassination of President John F. Kennedy keep getting deleted? Have I struck a nerve here?? Why do you bring up the subject if you don't want opinions? (I posted the same thing word for word on several message boards and those are still there--so it ain't them...or ME!) I just reposted, came here to post a comment on my post, and it was ALREADY GONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
According to this http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/brain.txt the most likely scenario was that Robert F. Kennedy received all autopsy materials in question and kept those he deemed most important (the main one being the brain), and did not let anyone else in on what he kept or what he did with it, which is only a best guess--no proof! Superintendent John Metzler specifically denied my guess in item 4 above: "Metzler stated further that no one placed anything in the new or old gravesite besides the vault."
Every time I look this up, I hear a new one. Someone proposed that Scanners made Kennedy's head explode (as in the 1981 movie). http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1018315-scanners/ If Jackie was one, I guess it could have been her.
You know...at first I thought only three things to be possible. The thing is, 1) Robert F. Kennedy was the ONLY person with access who had ANY motive to take the brain for noble reasons. 2) It was plain carelessness. Almost impossible! How do you lose something so important stored under controlled conditions? 3) Someone other than RFK took it, meaning there was a conspiracy and coverup coming from some very high places! Plain and simple, it takes away the luxury of any possible belief otherwise!
Now, you know what, I take it back! At least four things are possible.
I based my statement that RFK would take his brother's brain only for noble and upstanding reasons on the assumption that RFK must (at least in 1965) have completely accepted the Warren Commission's account of the president's death...why else abscond with the most valuable piece of evidence in the case? Well, according to his own son, he considered the report "a shoddy piece of craftsmanship." http://www.salon.com/2013/01/14/robert_f_kennedy_jfk_conspiracy_theori st/
The Warren Commission report doesn't account for sooooooo much, for instance:
Oswald's coworkers had him drinking a soda in the lunchroom shortly after the first shot. Physically impossible if he were the shooter.
But he still killed Officer Tippet for absolutely no reason unless he was an an assassin, or assisting them, right?
Robert Kennedy had another motive to help in the cover-up...he knew the Warren Commission was full of it and the killers were still out there, and he didn't want them coming after him!
First post: I never forget when the "Lee Harvey Oswald" episode of Quantum Leap aired and creator Donald P. Bellisario appeared on TV talking about it. His whole point was, he knew Oswald in the Marines and Oswald was crazy then. Oswald did the prior shooting, at the General, alone. (Obviously he had the gun before--since it was mail order and there just wasn't time to obtain it to have especially for Kennedy's visit to Dallas.) Therefore, there was no conspiracy in JFK's murder. He backed this up by saying that, "In all these years no one has come forward saying this is what happened, here's what I did." I was watching with my mom and uncle. One of them cracked, "Yeah, someone's supposed to tell 'How I Shot the President'!" We all hit the floor at that one!
Followup: And...I may end up eating my words on this one. http://jfkmurderjamesfiles.weebly.com/ But, Oswald behaved so extremely suspiciously. If he was a U. S. Government agent associating with these shady characters to infiltrate and out them, he knew who was guilty! If he could not entrust such sensitive information to the Dallas Police, why not demand a Federal Investigator to whom he would reveal the real killers before ever being taken from incarceration, out into the open where another conspirator could silence him...forever? Either really DUMB, or he was GUILTY in some incriminating aspect of the crime!
Top Ten Stupidest President Kennedy Assassination Theories:
10. Oliver Stone did it knowing the subject would one day make a great movie. (His alibi was being in school halfway across the country—but he sure gained enough from it!)
9. The “umbrella man” theory: Louie Steven Witt appears in the Zapruder film, seemingly inexplicably raising a black umbrella on a sunny day. He was accused of using this to either signal marksmen, or to fire a poison dart concealed within the umbrella. Appearing before the House Select Committee on Assassinations, Witt, who still had the original umbrella and brought it as an exhibit, creating a light moment in the proceedings, stated that he actually had the umbrella to taunt JFK over the Kennedy family’s World War II Nazi ties.
8. a) The driver, William Greer, was in on it and slowed down to allow the gunman better aim. b) The driver himself turned and fired a gun which neither anyone else in the car, anyone watching on both sides of the road, or most of the millions who eventually saw the films by Abraham Zapruder and Orville Nix ever noticed.
4. Kennedy's wife Jackie had it done because she was angry about fill in the blank.
3. Every time I look this up, I hear a new one. Someone proposed that Scanners made Kennedy's head explode (as in the 1981 movie). http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1018315-scanners/ If Jackie was one, I guess it could have been her.
2. Kennedy was not killed. At least one version has him removed from office while one has him surviving incapacitated on Aristotle Onassis’s private island.
The massive and continuing screwups and coverups are possibly the most troubling aspect of the whole sad and sorry case which made up the John F. Kennedy assassination, and why I firmly side with the 70%-90% of people who don't fully accept the Warren Commission's crummy excuse for a report or swallow the official story (which you'll notice members of the Kennedy family themselves did not accept--John Jr. had a chance to dismiss conspiracy theorists when asked, and his answer suggested nothing of the kind. In explaining why he chose not to pursue the subject, his exact words were, "whatever they decide or whatever they find is not going to change the one fundamental fact in my life, which is that it won't bring him back." Gee, where does it say, "The Warren Commission in their all-seeing, all-knowing wisdom explained everything. All conspiracy theorists are crackpots who should get a life"? Don't see it)! If this was a simple, straightforward, open-and-shut case of a lone nut with a gun, why all the unbelievable screwups (a few, maybe--but so many? Particularly botching the autopsy and then losing half of what material there was from it? Including the most valuable and necessary part?), the lies, the coverups, the reams and reams of documents still suppressed?
According to some, the official story is merely hard to accept because people look at the insignificance of Oswald on the one hand, the significance of Kennedy on the other, and try to balance it out with all sorts of other factors, but I don't agree. Look at John Lennon, who arguably influenced more people even than JFK. Why are there few to no conspiracy theories surrounding his death? Why few to no conspiracy theories regarding the shooting of President Ronald Reagan only a few months later? Uh, maybe because in those cases it was well-demonstrated to have actually been a lone nut with a gun! Add Presidents Garfield and McKinley to this category.
The lone nut with a gun theory has been tried and woefully failed in the case of President Kennedy and even in the case of his brother, whose assailant was caught on the spot, gun in hand! (But the lone shooter theory in that case was never made to agree with the evidence regardless of the amount of manipulation tried.) I'm not saying, "If it doesn't fit, you must acquit"...not going so far as to suggest acquitting Oswald, just saying a whole lot is going on here besides what the official story suggests.
Wow! Are there a lot tin-foil wearing, conspiracy theorists out there. I find it simply amazing that so many od you people somehow know so much about the "truth" behind the assassination, as well as Donald Bellisario's for writing the ep. To paraphrase Forrest Gump, Crazy is as crazy does."
For the record, I am one of those who believe Oswald acted alone.
I saw Bellisario in an interview saying this episode was a response to Oliver Stone's JFK movie. He thought the movie was ridiculous with its conspiracy theories and he wanted to do the opposite, show a version with no conspiracy.