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Snake Death Scene, Wrong on So Many Levels


After listening to "The Gartan Mother's Lullaby" (the song the Irish cowhand sings to his brother) for many years (long before this series was on--it was in a volume of Childcraft I got when I was one--), I looked it up, expecting it to date to at least the 1700s. According to Wikipedia, at least, the tune is traditional, but the lyrics are in the folk style, only--technically not authentic folk as it is known who wrote them and when--they were not written until 1904, while Lonesome Dove is obviously set around the 1880s. Apparently that's just the beginning of what is wrong with this scene. http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/1989-02-11/lifestyle/8902110514_1_natural-world-lonesome-dove-moccasins

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I was more bothered by the inaccurate location than the water moccasins personally. That ranch they had looked like the last place for a ranch to me.

The author of that article is really eaten up with "mankind is killing the planet and is doomed", isn't he?

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My mom always wonders what even one cow would eat in a scorched desert--let alone a large herd!

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They didn't eat.

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It's the best western ever written and put on the TV screen .. no matter the mistakes .. I'm a 99% non fiction reader ... but this is a masterpiece .

"A man that wouldn't cheat for a poke don't want one bad enough".



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Milo44,

While the book is fiction, the characters of Gus and Call are based on real people: Oliver Loving and Charles Goodnight. Check out info on the Goodnight/Loving Trail.

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If you read the history of cattle driving, the cattle (and the cowboys) lost weight on drives.

The idea was to get them TO good grazing land - somethin' south west Texas ain't ever had ...

The whole impetus of the movie was the fact that Woodrow had been told about the rollin' green grass land's in Montana ...and he latched on to that idea . . .


While this movie may not be completely authentic in every particular, men DID drive cattle this far north back then . . . but mostly in easterly and westerly routes . . .



WE DON'T RENT PIGS

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Cmash . . .
I finally read the article you contributed . . . and im,compelled to point out where the writer is totally wrong . . .

Seems like he found only one scene an unlikely natural 'disaster' -so he tried to beef-up his article by adding something more - and he doesn't know what he's talking about ...

While the snake scene IS an extreme over-dramatitization of getting bit by a cotton-mouth in water, Braun was totally wrong on the weather.

Quoting Braun:
" ...a fantastic series of natural disasters: floods, dust-storms, lightening... might happen once in a decade but not all in one year ..."

Really shows the man's ignorance.
I fail to understand why you chose his article to present your point . . .

First of all, He misspelled lightening...

He didn't even mention wind and rain ...

For those who bought all of Braun's drivel - let's get it straight ...

Thunder storms happen everywhere, all the time, frequently throughout the year. Out in wide open spaces, like Texas, New Mexico, etc, where the climate is dry and there is very little grass, when it starts getting really windy, it creates dust storms all the time.

Thunder is caused by lightening, so I don't know where he gets the idea that thunderstorms only occur once in a decade . . .

As for flooding, anytime the ground is very hard and dry due to even short droughts, the heavy rains of a thunderstorm accumulate in branches, creeks, and rivers really fast - so they DO fill the banks.
This is the only 'flooding' shown in the movie and is very common ANYWHERE the ground is very dry because the fast-heavy rain is basically falling on dry ground that is similar to cement . . .

He seems to imply this happened more than once in the movie - there was ONE dust storm, created by a thunderstorm which carried heavy rain, which filled the creeks and rivers.

Obviously, He did not even watch the movie.



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I once heard a true story about a boy being bitten by a nest of water mocassins in a river. The boy died at the front door of a pharmacy because Blue Laws were in effect at the time (I believe it was in Alabama). The led to them repealing Blue Laws for some businesses like pharmacies.

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He spelled "lightning" correctly. You're spelling it in the context of "lightening a load".

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That would be way cool if you videotaped. Viral, man!

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Still, not a thing you see every day.

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