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Bizarre theory: Totoro is Death?


Okay I came across this bizarre theory about Totoro the movie, note that this is not my intepretation, just what I saw other people were discussing:

1.It is saying that Totoro is in fact messenger of Death, and whoever sees him will soon die. The hospital that the sister's mother was in was based on a real hospital for terminally-ill patients.

2. Later in the story the villagers find a slipper in a pond, which is in fact May's, at this point she has already drowned in the pond. Satsuki lied that the slipper wasn't Mei's out of denial. Ever since this scene, the sisters appeared to have no shadow.

3. Satsuki pleaded the Totoro and the cat-bus to take her to where Mei is, while on the cat-bus, says "Nobody can see us...", this scene is Satsuki leading herself to the land of the dead (by taking the cat-bus).

4. At the hospital, the mother says "I think I feel May and Satsuki smiling there in that tree..." Why don't the sisters go and see their mom if they are already there? Why do they just leave the corn there instead? It is said that the sisters were dead at that point, and the Japanese pronunciation of "corn" is similar to "kill child".

5. The final scenes seem to be a happy epilogue, but they in fact happened "before" the major events in the movie.

6. The movie was set in a place in Japan where there was a case of murdering of two sisters which happened in the 60s. This event took place on May 1st, while the sister's names are Satsuki (May in Japanese) and Mei (May in English). In the real life case, the younger sister was missing first and the older sister was seen to be looking for her frantically. Nest day, the younger sister's body was found in the forest (stabbed to death). The older sister was in such a state of shock and kept rambling ambiguous words about seeing a "cat monster", "great big racoon monster" etc to the police. The sisters were in fact from a single-parent family (mother died of illness).

Ever since these rumors started to circulate, people have been calling Ghibli for verification "is Totoro Death" "Why don't the sisters have shadows later in the movie", and Ghibli made announcment on their blog site about the shadow issue saying that there was no shadow because the animators decided there was no shadow needed in those scenes (maybe bc of light source etc).

Here is Ghibli's blog site with the responses (anyone knows Japanese, can you verify?): http://www.ghibli.jp/15diary/003717.html

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I personally was a bit shocked to learn of this theory, kind of skeptical really, because the details of the "real-life" murder event are really sketchy, and how the older sister died was not said. It's just hard to verify. And 5. the issue with the epilogue being prologue, wasn't there a baby brother at the end?...How can that be before the story...

So what do you think...Too much BS? Or eerie coincidence?



Let nobody tell you what to do, gotta be the judge and the jury, too!

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It was explained quite clearly in the film what Totoro is...

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It's the only way to be =P

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I still can't watch this movie without thinking Totoro isn't death.. =\

The ending is so weird! Like really..Why would the kids not stay to talk to their mom? Their SICK mom.

more evidence??

http://ghibli.livejournal.com/316492.html

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TOTORO IS NOT DEATH xP

It is open to interpretation so stop claiming absolutes

In my view he is the opposite of death, he is life, imagination, a free spirit - notice how he makes the seeds sprout, would death do that?

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Agreed. This is a Miyazaki-movie, not one done by Tim Burton or M. Night Shyamalan. But for some reason, some people want to see more hidden in it than there is. C.f. this discussion here or the one about the bathroom scene.

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In the Japanese culture, there are many stories told based on something horrible happened in the past. This is why the Japanese can tell such effective horror stories, because many of them are based on something real that happened. It'd not be at all surprising that Totoro was somehow influenced by the Sayama incident when the writers wrote the story, even if influenced subconsciously. There are way too many similarities between the film and the Sayama incident to completely dismiss the possible connections.

On the other hand, I'm not surprised either that Studio Ghibli denied the theory. Totoro was one of Studio Ghibli's earliest films, and when the film was released, no one knew it was going to be as big as it is today. Miyazaki-san wouldn't have thought that Totoro would become so genuinely loved by children around the world (some argued kids love Totoro even more than Mickey Mouse). To admit this connection would completely ruin the studio's other films and any future work.

I personally believe Totoro was influenced by the Sayama incident. This makes the film's story a lot more tragic, but made me love the film even more.

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This movie was partly based on Miyazaki's own experiences as a child and he wasn't involved with the Sayama incident. I've read the Wikipedia page and nothing about it similar to Totoro.

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The Sayama Incident happened in 1963, during the time Miyazaki was starting his career. He probably heard of the incident.

Also for both the name Satsuki and Mei, the Japanese meaning can be translated to the month May, which is also the month that the Sayama Incident happened.

IMO the incident did have a effect on the story.

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At the ending it clearly shows that their mother gets out of hospital and takes the taxi home with their father. She's greeted by her two children, who were supposed to be dead according to your theory.

When the older sister found her young sister, the young sister still has both of her shoes.

When the two sisters return home, the old nanny and the young old have no shadows either. And they were happy to see them safe. If the sisters were dead, how could the old nanny and the young boy see them?

Land of the dead? What about land of the spirit?

At the happy epilogue. You could see the young boy from the village. If this happened before the events in the movie, why is he there?

If Totoro is death, how could he give life and make the seeds grow?

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May the seven plagues descend upon you and the one who originally came up with this nonsense.

Now, I can't get it off my head even though I know this is not true and not intentional. I just can't.

One who's genuinely sleeping can be awoken, but one who pretends to be sleeping cannot.

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The slipper that the villagers find isn't Mei's, she uses yellow shoes and those where pink slippers.

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The slipper that the villagers find isn't Mei's, there are slight differences between that and the ones Mei is actually wearing.

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Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the shoe actually belong to Chihiro of Spirited Away. I'm sure I read something about that.

In the film she tells the river spirit that she fell in a river and lost her shoe and the spirit tells her that it was him she fell into to.

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Yep, if you're going to be pedantic Reik be right. Otherwise you just come across as arrogant and foolish. Theory is as correct in this context as it is when used for a scientific theory.

See I like the Chihiro idea, whether it's true or not.

So much of the death theory seems a stretch to me. The shoe appears debunked, the found shoe is all pink (as is the one we see in Chihiro's flashback, although they're not completely identical). Mei's are yellow even when sitting in the tree (sometimes drawn with a red or pink strap?).

The girls not going to their parents never seemed that strange to me, now they know their mother is safe and that it was more of a minor setback but they also know that they shouldn't be there, Satsuki at least is mature enough to know that if they go to their parents they'd have a lot of explaining to do and for what? Maybe they just decided their mother didn't need the extra stress. After all the Catbus is sitting in the tree with them waiting to take them home.

Keeping in mind that all through the movie (as with any Ghibli movie I've seen) the children show a much greater independence and awareness than would be expected in most Hollywood movies.

As to point one, even if it was a hospital for the terminally ill, maybe everyone was trying to be positive for the kids sake and maybe nanny was right all along and the corn really was good? The mother doesn't see Totoro so I don't see how this ties in with, well anything?

I've never noticed the lack of shadows but maybe it's just another part of interacting with the spirit world. The father says you can only see them when they want to be seen, what if a spirit doesn't want someone else to see you while you are dealing with them? Sight and shadow are both dependant on light and so maybe there's a link in there somewhere.

In fact if you take that idea further, how did the girls leave the corn without being seen if not under the protection of the spirits (their mother gets a glimpse but they're gone quick enough that she doubts it).

No light reflected to be seen, no light interrupted for a shadow. It's a silly theory I know but no more so than the Totoro of Death idea.

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It really baffles me that people keep saying the sandal found in the pond is Mei's, because Miyazaki goes to great lengths to show it isn't. When Mei is leaving to walk to the hospital, there's a clear shot of her feet as she puts on her sandals, and they have two parallel straps - they don't cross each other - across the foot and no flower. We're given a good look so that we know this in advance. When we see the sandal found in the pond, its straps cross each other and there's a little flower at the point where they cross. It's certainly a little girl's shoe and it's the same color as Mei's, which is probably why Tatsuki hesitates for a second, but it isn't hers at all.

'I say, you move, and you're dead!' 'And I say, I'm dead and I move...'

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Here goes my childhood

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I haven't been able to watch the movie for a while now.. I went on a ghibli marathon and had to skip this rofl... You try to watch it, you can't help but see all the similarity's and it just gets creepy.

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O.o sounds like whoever thought of this doesn't know shortcake from Shinola.

I agree total boosha. Like the basic theory is plausible but the rest sounds more than a little manipulated.

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