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So who did John love?


Did John really love CC?
Or did she really married him "by default"?

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I think he loved CC. He had a very deep bond and friendship with CC. Maybe not as a traditional romantic love. When Hillary left, his attention refocused on CC.

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I don't know if John fell in love with Hillary. Their romance never really got off the ground. They had one night together and then Hillary went off to take care of her dad. But I think John was into Hillary romantically in a way that he never was with CC. He looked at her as if he was entranced by her; they had a very natural, intimate connection. Had they spent more time together, they would have undoubtedly fallen for one another and probably would have been the ones who had gotten married. It's too bad it didn't turn out that way. Would have spared Hillary the heartache of her marriage to that cheating douche. And since CC and John were ALWAYS wrong for one another and wanted different things out of showbiz and life, it would have prevented that failed marriage as well.

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I sometimes wonder if people really listen to the dialog or just "look at the pictures"????

CC: "Did I hear you say you loved me?"

John: "Yes, I did."

CC: "Is that usual? Is that part of your routine?"

John: "Huh?"

CC: "Do you say that often? When you're making love, I mean?"

John: "I haven't said that to anyone in probably 10 years."

CC: "Then you mean you really love me?"

John: "I'm a womanizer, CC, not a liar."


I know this is not exactly word for word but close enough to answer your questions.


Since he had seen Hillary recently, obviously John never told her he loved her. John also says he is a womanizer, which seems to indicate he wanted to sleep with her because she was young and beautiful. John said he wasn't lying which would indicate he really loved CC.

When CC comes back from Miami, after seeing her mother, and finds John's things in the process of being moved, he tells her at the Falcon Theater, on the steps, "I will always love you, I just can't live this way." They divorced because John did not want the same things CC wanted, he preferred a smaller, quieter lifestyle doing his "Indie" plays, not the bright lights of Broadway and glamorous trappings, etc.

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Are you implying that males can't love single female beings ?!!!
Ur comment is stupidier than myne !

The dialogue should portray more of an accurate answer than ur premonitions about men

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He's a man. It's not hard to fathom that he loved both. Have your cake and eat it too.

"Well, for once the rich white man is in control!" C. M. Burns

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I think he loved CC...but more than anything he was in love with her talent. Which is why he picks her for the lead in his play even though her career had hithe skids.

Dammit Carol Sue, where is the vodka?!

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I actually found John to be somewhat likable. I also like director Garry Marshall's commentary in the DVD that he did not want to portray the men in the film as bad guys because this is a chick flick, or something to that effect. I honestly think that John was more attracted to Hilary romantically than to CC, at least initially. I don't know if I would say that CC and John's marriage was totally "by default", as Hilary argued. I think they thought they loved one another at first. They just did not want the same things out of life is what I gathered from it. His attraction to Hilary just probably never came to be a reality beyond sleeping together, and maybe not just because she had to return to San Francisco to be with her dying dad. Maybe I am way off base, but that is my interpretation.

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CC. Just because a man wants to sleep with someone (ie. Hillary) doesn't mean he loves her, or doesn't love someone else. Many people (of either gender) can separate love and sex.

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